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Old 07-10-08, 05:26 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
It just isn't possible to prevent every state we'd prefer not to obtain nuclear weapons from obtaining them. I don't worry so much about the states, I worry about the non state actors.

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Exactly.

BTW, I have not voted. I'll keep all options open, and refuse to limit my possible decisions that early.

Not that my decision, or this poll, do matter anyway.

AntEater,

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In fact, the only war against Iran that would make any sense would be a full scale invasion. A land drive to Teheran with serveral divisions. Occupy the country, let the son of the Shah return and keep the Iranians under control again for the US. Such a war would take some time, cost casualties ranging in the thousands on the "coalition of the willing" side and maybe hundreds of thousands on Iranian side.
But I see neither the political will nor the actual capacity to launch such an offensive. Also the problem is that the starting point, Iraq, is not exactly the safest operational base either.
All said, such a war would be over some time, limiting the economic damage.
you have queer images on your mind when calling invasion the only reasonable war - and expecting that one to be a short war and limited in damage. You have not looked close enough at Iraq then. I can tell you that Iran would be a hundred times more difficult then Iraq. It's the worst case scenario, lasting longer, costing more in lives and money - and cannot be won anyway. Your "only way" scenario is my worst case scenario and the reasosn why I would refuse to support such kind of a stupid war. Because it has no reasonable chance to succeed, and would cause killing and destruction all for nothing. I think your problem is that you mix up what you want to achieve with what can be achieved by a given way of going, or in other words: wishful thinking, and making hope a valid strategy. At the same time you shy away from the grim side of war, and trying to talk it nice and tidy. Please put your own life at risk for such goals, if you want. But stay away from putting other's lives at risk for that.

I have no doubt tjhat even the Pentagon does not plan for an invasion of Iran. I gues they have learned a lesson or two from the past two wars Rumsfeld has messed up for them.
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