We do not need all that for another couple of years and decades, Platapus. We have already done that ad nauseum. Nor do we need more years and decades wasted with even more discussions and unsubstantial declaration of intentions and hopes and wishes.
We need to start action adapting to what is already taking place right here and right now, in our world, during our lifetime. It is no longer the future. The future we talked about ten years ago.
So we need to start doing action NOW.
the sad thing is , what needs to be doen for the most will not be done. And the little that gets being done, is too little, and comes too late.
That threatens a lot of short-termed interests who live by the condition quo not being changed. that is your answer to the question of why data about global warming is getting concealed.
There is a very strong correlation between speeding up of warming by a factor of 1000 or faster, and the emergence of man'S activities on this planet. But that is not important. Global warming is taking place, with or without that correlation. And no matter the idiotic threads denying it by repeating the same nonsens "arguments" denying it time and again in total ignorration of that their content has been countered and demystified SINCE YEARS. for example the paradox effect of one half of the antarctic winning in ice thickness - while hiding that the other half is loosing ice, and that it all is an evidence of global warming affecting the antarctic by a mechanism of warming-evaporation-condensating. Or the idiotic biomass- hypothesis that claims that CO2 production actually fosters a green planet, and claiming that by not going beyond the immidiate short-term time-scale. It has been falsified time and again, and has been posted time and again as well. the explanations have been made public, they are reasonable, they are valid, and have been predicted years in advance. There is nothing mysterious, and nothing dogmatic, and nothing conspiratorial about them. and still the same crap gets claimed time and again, as if the counter-arguments never has been given.
It'S all about making the louder noise.
Why wasting even more time with doing all this AGAIN? When it has not convinced the ignorrant the past ten times - why assuming you could do it when doing it one more time? The debate is more about an almost religious dogma than about the obvious, or scientific facts. It is about a decision not to believe in what one knows. You cant argue with people who believe. they will always counter any opposing argument by saying "I believe different". belief is more important to them than facts.
I stopped wasting my time with sceptics, who aren't sceptic at all, because a sceptic nevertheless argues by reason and knows his stuff instead of endlessly repeating the same biased propaganda. Much of what I read in this forum in the past is no scepticism, but pure ignorrance and stupid propaganda. In the end these people will have to deal with the changes that have begun to make themselves beeing felt like everybody elsehas to. and wether they become loud or not, or are truly sceptic or just ignorrant or not, does not play any role. It does not matter.
It's already happening. See it, or not. Adapt, or not. Be able to handle it, or not. Survive, or not. It doesn't matter - for things are happening nevertheless, and they refuse to take your opinion about them into account.
so please, not another round of what we already have had in abundance - forum-wise, as well as on the political stage.
and the moderator will be thankful to have one potential hotspot less needing to keep a close eye on.
even more so since we have been there several times before.