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Originally Posted by MONOLITH
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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann
To the Moderators:
We've given you every opportunity to be the police. .... removes any respect or influence you may have with us.
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What's evident here, is that the "guests" here have been allowed to believe it is they who run the site, and even the moderators are supposed to answer to them.
It is so nice of you Lehmann, to "allow the opportunity" for the moderators to do their job. Very generous of you.
Then you declare they have no influence over you. I thought this was Subsim,com, not Lehmann.com
The problem here is not the moderators, it's certain members who have decided they run Subsim, and Neal has supported it.
So, you're relationship with Neal has granted you this ability, so be it, you win.
But the real pathetic truth in it all is clearly stated in your words.
You can yell and rant in your usual style and tell me to shut up now, but the real problems here have been revealed.
My sympathies to the moderators. You have an uphill climb and your feet have been chopped off.
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TBH, I remember multiple cases of either Neal or some of the moderators telling us/me/GWX team to "not feed the trolls, use the report button". And I have used it quite a few times and so has many many others. Seeing as it only has resulted in locking of the said thread without any punishment for the one who started it makes me personally mad. What good is the report button then? I've said this in other threads lately, just simply locking the thread wont fix the problem (But that's why we all are here now, right?

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Moderators, I am glad to see that you are taking more heavier tools to use to put a stop to the fighting, but my suggestion would be a more severe punishment than a 24hr ban, a week minimum would IN MY OPINION be right. 24hrs is a short time and propably wont do any good for the person that is banned.
I can talk of an own experience. The last 30 day ban I got, I was REALLY angry for 3-4 days after it (mostly because the counterpart who IMHO started the whole thing, got only a 3 day ban, but that is irrelevant.), but a week/1½ weeks later I started to feel really ashamed of what I did and I can say (and I hope) that my behaviour here at SS has improved alot after the ban. I'm not jumping in on every fight I see just for the heck of it, I post if I have something to say, be it my opinion or a correction for someone's post.
But, like I said to Neal in one of my PM's I am certainly in no position to start to teach you how to do your job as moderators, this' just how I see it.