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Iceman · 07-02-08, 01:39 AM

On one of my birthdays ,can't remember which...about 20 yrs ago now,I saw the movie .To me this was an eye opening movie not in it's exactly correct story telling but from what I have looked into this units battles and such it is pretty accurate.At the end of the movie it shows the colonel being buried with his black troops after the battle,which I would think would have been a priority on both sides to bury the dead soon as possible.What struck me about it is that reading actual letters and accounts of this that the confederates offered to go and find the body of the colonel so he did not have to be buried with the blacks and his mother told them no,that Col. Robert Gould Shaw would have wanted to be buried with his troopers....to me this captures the essence of brotherhood in fighting against something that is wrong regardless of color.

Similiar to many other things in history...the fight against Nazi Germany and Japan..taking a stand against something that is screwed up takes alot of courage.

P.S....I consider Abraham Lincoln to be my country's greatest president.

The Gettysburg Address

Gettysburg, Pennsylvania

November 19, 1863

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

07-02-08, 01:39 AM	#7
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	On one of my birthdays ,can't remember which...about 20 yrs ago now,I saw the movie .To me this was an eye opening movie not in it's exactly correct story telling but from what I have looked into this units battles and such it is pretty accurate.At the end of the movie it shows the colonel being buried with his black troops after the battle,which I would think would have been a priority on both sides to bury the dead soon as possible.What struck me about it is that reading actual letters and accounts of this that the confederates offered to go and find the body of the colonel so he did not have to be buried with the blacks and his mother told them no,that Col. Robert Gould Shaw would have wanted to be buried with his troopers....to me this captures the essence of brotherhood in fighting against something that is wrong regardless of color. Similiar to many other things in history...the fight against Nazi Germany and Japan..taking a stand against something that is screwed up takes alot of courage. P.S....I consider Abraham Lincoln to be my country's greatest president. The Gettysburg Address Gettysburg, Pennsylvania November 19, 1863 *Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.* Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. Last edited by Iceman; 07-02-08 at 01:53 AM.