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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins
When did he write this? February of 2007? What is the purpose of the post? Display of knowledge of antique subsims? Sounds like you need to buy yourself an Apple ][+ and knock yourself out with an original copy of Silent Service.
Personally, on the Kraken, it is stupid to fight planes as they have all the advantage, DDs attack with ferocity that usually means you have to fight them before you get to the convoy. Often a convoy battle devolves into a night of repeated hit and runs attempting to get the escorts on one side while I attack the other.
The amount of air cover is not unrealistic. Reading the real mission reports reveals air cover by radar equipped Japanese planes in coordination with radar equipped escorts that turned our subs from hunter into hunted. Only in comparison with antique games does SH4 have "too much air cover." Fluckey's logs reveal that diving a dozen times a day was not unusual. Even in stock SH4 I have not see planes come from nowhere. You also forget aircraft carriers as sources of planes.
Convoys often scattered when attacked in Japanese waters. Continuing to operate as a unit was the exception, not the rule. Sometimes that also happens in SH4. There is a plausible range of convoy reactions.
In hundreds of save games under all conditions I have not had ships or convoys vanish. I have never lost a save. The sun comes up on schedule every day. Your chart wouldn't help without doing the math to find local time sunrise anyway. The antique games didn't take local time into account. You miss their defects, not their reality.
Weather reports are available on demand from your crew.
I could go on and on, but I won't. I so wanted to respond to an intelligent and focused post by someone looking for the way to make this superior new sim work well. I spent twice as many words on this nonsense as I usually do responding to real problems. If my kid didn't find you amusing you would be on eBay right now.:rotfl:
I hope others enjoy the game as much as I do. I'm here to see if I can make that happen. For many, I've been able to make a difference. For some, nothing can help.
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ok sorry but i cant see the original post.. black on grey and my old eyes
you mentioned here that you never saw planes "apear from nowhere" this i find hard to beleive ( and im not having a go!) its just that, they do apear from nowhere, and they do so often. now i know when theyre carrier based, they operate in groups of 3, wich is fun when you see 4 groups of 3
that was some task force..
however, i often see swarms of them, in 1s and 2s pop out of thin air, heading straight for me, often with me not having been on the surface for more than 20 seconds, and not having been sighted by anything ( because ive just set out, no engagements made soo.....)
thats just "my" experience of shiv, so i would back up the OP on that bit
as for convoy reactions, ok stock has issues (1.4) but the only reaction ive seen is that they all zig zag for a bit, then rejoin and continue..im ussually taken aback by the fact they start zig zaggin in the first place as im sat still and got in unnoticed. they have some sharp eyed lookouts at times..
i never saw a straggler even, a KONGO who has a severe list, having soaked up 5-7 torps, can make 9 knots.. made comical by the fact that a further 2 fish hit the screws, bounced back , powered into the screw again, and the exploded, without harming the screws or the rudder...
i am aware of many mods that fix most if not all of these but as the op was talking about stock, i see his point here.
some weird things happen in shiv.
but like i said in my experience, aircraft will swarm you the moment you break surface, wich is very far fetched, and the convoys only have a single reaction, wich is zig zag, and rejoin...
I love SHIV !! so you dont need to defend it
im just curious as to how your experience seems to differ to mine so vastly.
ive nothing against planes being in the area if that is what happened in R/L! however, scope breaks surface... immediatly 2 planes head directly for me.. every time >? that isnt realistic..
and just once i would like to see a ship fall behind its friends in the convoy.. short of taking the screws of this wont happen, even a ship with the sea washing over its entire body, will maintain speed with its undamaged friends most of the time, it seems to have the "swarm meantality" of erm...battle of britain ? sheesh i forget the name right now, but it was one of the first flight sims to have groups of up to 100 aircraft in the sky at any one time, however due to limitations in that, it meant you didnt get stragglers, even if they were flying on one engine.
i have the same experience in shiv..
well thats my 2 cents
my advice to the op is to check out the mods mentioned here, both shiv and shiii are great games, but its incredbly rare for any unmodded game to provide for eveyone these days.