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Old 05-19-08, 04:31 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
How is that not useful? Takeoff from short or unpaven fields is something the US Military has been lacking for a very long time. What happens when someone bombs and airfield and fighters can't take off?
Then what, we're going to base even closer to that threat which is good enough to successfully put holes in a USAF/USMC runway (basing closer is demanded by F-35B's reduced numbers, mission radius, and weapons carriage) in an unprepared airfield? Give me a break. It (forward VTOL basing of fast jets) sounds cool, but really isn't operationally helpful/feasible.


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Or if you have to invade a country like Afganstain where there are no pristine airfields to use? This is why the RAF uses the BAe Harrier, and why the USAF is considering the F/A-35B.
Which they have NEVER done. Simply because it's risky. And I don't think any armed service in their right mind is going to be putting a circa $75 million dollar VLO airframe in a place where it is vulnerable to mortar attacks and the like. And BTW, what would have kept F-16s landing at Afghan airfields shortly after it was secured other than security issues? I mean, that's the kind of thing the Seabees and USAF equivalent exist for, right?

The F-35B is useless to USMC (and the US taxpayer in general) because: what does all of 8 F-35s on a Marine deck get you? They cannot support ground forces with any meaning because of the pitiful sortie rate/weapons carriage offered. To move Marines ashore against any real opposition the USMC _needs_ to have its hands held by a REAL carrier group. F-35B is a product to be sold to Navies that can't afford real carriers. R&D funded by the US taxpayer.

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The only major diffrence with the C model is that it has bigger gear undercarage with a double forward wheel, wider wings and anti-corrosion paint. The great thing about the F/A-35 is that each model is basicly the same aircraft with a few changes to the airframe or the additon of a lift fan (which personaly I dislike because its unable to VIFF and is dead weight after takeoff.)
Joint in logistics. There is nothing common about where F-35s can be based though.

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