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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
Speaking only for myself, I consider the MADPADS feature, and features related to its use, to be poorly implemented in such a way that makes the MANPADS more useful of an option to the player than it should be in real life. My main complaints are the speed at which the MANPADS can be deployed after surfacing (instantaneously, without any delay for the person to pop the hatch, break the weapon out of its container and perform whatever operations needed on the weapon to make it ready to fire); that surfacing and diving occurs much more quickly than in real life, without any detrimental trimming effects; and that the periscope and ESM masts are completely undetectable by any means.
The sim should have been made in such a way that, as in real life (assuming for a moment that this would EVER be done in real life, which is itself quite a stretch), the use of a MANPADS would be so risky that it should be done only in a situation where the skipper knows the boat will be lost unless they pull off a miracle. The poor implementation allows this weapon's use to approach SOP, which is ****ing trope.
LWAMI has already gone out of its way to nerf the MANPADS by narrowing the missile's sensor cone, increasing flare effectiveness, and making subs at periscope depth detectable by airborne visual sensors.
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I agree with you that helo hunting is badly done in dw but there are ways to correct this abnormal behaviour (at least in multiplayer).
One is to use a frigate in the zone the helo is operating.
Use the frigate and its canon to cover the area the helo is operating in.
If a sub does surface to pop a sam on the helo it will be receiving very quickly artillery shells and believe me that 2 or 3 hits are sufficient to send back the sub into the abyss if its not already destroyed.
I used this tactic in multiplayer missions where sub players were having a field day shooting down helo players and they were shocked beyond belief when one of them was obliterated by the artillery shells from the frigate.
Lesson learned. Never surface only to shoot offhandly at a helo.
