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Old 05-14-08, 03:49 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
I wouldn't mind trying it out. I think I do need to mention, though, that most if not all of the people on the LWAMI team consider the use of subs as AAW platforms to be unrealistic and annoying.
Ok, wasn't aware of that. GrayOwl has already posted his script here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136503

and it's easier to 'install' because it only consists of one script. I've just randomized a little the behavior (unpredictability) and added the constraint, that the AI subs only fires SAMs if there is only one air/helo detected.

I'm not a naval expert, so why is this unrealistic? Wouldn't a diesel sub uses its SAMs if it's detected by a nearby plane/helo during snorkeling or so (surprisingly of course).

How in general do y think could the AI-sub be more clever to evade air platforms if it gets detected?
Or is it quite realistic, that a sub gets >90% killed if one/two P-3 or so has made a good fix on it?

I've gained my knowledge of ASW mostly by reading Tom Clancy's and Larry Bond's books and some ASW articles...so sorry, if I've ask dump questions
Well, the way I see it from a mission objective point of view, is submarines are made to be covert, so why would a submarine whose sole mission is stealth compromise itself doing so? Logically it doesn’t add up.

If anything you would want to try and spoof the prosecutor and attempt to throw him / her off any hunches of clues to your whereabouts, or radio in air assets to counter the air platforms; not confront them.

One time in a mission objective scenario I made, where it was required for me find a transiting submarine (another playable), I was being prosecuted by active buoys and dipping sonar from a playable helo.

I was being prosecuted long enough to conclude that I’ve been detected. Well, long story short, after monitoring his timing, I launched some active decoys and tried to escape. Only to learn later in debriefing when he told me basically the decoys had him prosecuting something that wasn’t there for additional hour, which bought some time to resume my search for the transiting sub.

Now if its DM style gameplay, that’s a different can of worms where SAM hunting with subs is considered normal and is more than likely welcomed. But for a mission scenario, I don’t think it would be a good idea.
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