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Originally Posted by CCIP
Yea, but come on, haven't we learned anything in 60-odd years?
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Not IMO.
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Pragmatically-speaking, all war is evil.
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I don't think that's being pragmatic. That's just the way it is.
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But if we're to believe in the ideology behind this one, then at least we've gotta be striving to be a little more progressive than that.
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Well, being "progressive" in this scenario is problematic to say the least. Because the fact is the people who are blowing up Americans are CIVILLIANS. Which they use to every advantage. And I believe most of the civllians, even those who aren't going around blowing up Americans, don't want us squatting on their homeland. Which is perfectly understandable. We encouraged them to rebel against their dictator several times, each time they rose up and were SLAUGHTERED while we stood back and watched. Any good will we had with the Iraqi population was pissed away between our calls to rebel and our decade plus long pointless bully-via-airpower.
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There's a lot of very positive ideas about America's struggle for democracy which I genuinely would like to believe in. But we better see them implemented on the ground, and not in reverse logic.
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The only ways war should be used in my opinion is to TAKE something you need to have or defend that something from someone else. Or avenge an attack against your nation, through simple killing alone. Any other use of war, IMO, glorifies the butchering of other human beings. And it's done either to hide one's true intentions or because the one who is making war is a fool.
PD