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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Again, I beg to differ! You are the one with the wonky thinking (again). You only need look at the rise since they took them, versus the history prior to that, and you will find your answer.
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Subman, what you present demonstrates nothing. What I'm looking for is a causational link, not just an excercise in comparing two sets of numbers and then making a half baked conclusion, something I'm afraid to say you do a lot of on this forum.
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What a cop out idea - maybe you can prove this theory in favor of the obvious?
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Crime is just caused by 'bad people' then I guess.
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And besides, you keep telling me that social and economic pressures are getting better in the UK. Why are you reversing your story now?
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quotes please?
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Your a funny guy! 
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I'm glad I could lighten up your day
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Yes - it fell to 4,019 incidents - over 11 per day! Nice!  I like your woinky thinking though. Makes for fun poking it back at ya!
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Compared to what in the US? Subman, theres around 10,000 gun-related homicides in the US every year not even counting the suicides and accidents.