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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by joegrundman
Is your point, Subman, that if we are all armed in the UK, as you are in the US, then British gun crime will drop to US levels?
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I don't need to argue with you, nor do I need to tell you anything since your history already precedes you and that will tell you more than anything I can. In the 1970's, 1980's, and 1990's when anyone that wanted to be armed could be over there, your gun crime was still historically low - half of what it is before they took your guns and things doubled (This should also tell you something since your gun crime is rising). You don't follow the US models in this area which makes me alternately think that most of you out there are very courteous and respectful.
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Subman, this is pretty wonky thinking you have here. Where is the evidence that a rise in gun crime is triggered by the implimentation of more robust gun control measures?
Do you not think that social and econmic presures might have something more to do with criminals resorting to the use of firearms in the first place, and gun control measures being implimented as a result?
I think you are approaching gun violence in the UK with quite a number of false and incorrect assumptions, which may hold true in the US but not in the UK.
BTW, firearms related crimes actually fell in 2007, look at the stats.