[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by joegrundman

Sea Demon, Sea Demon...so very passionate about it....with such a collection of arguments....and you are a young earth creationist too, I hear. Is there a connection?

Oh joe. Where does one get the idea that being a Christian makes you an enemy of science? So many weird notions have come from the Internet. And this is one of them. I don't shy away from being a Christian in belief. Nor do I shy away from understanding scientific principles. This pathetic response from you is not even worth truly addressing. Really it isn't. Perhaps you have nothing to believe in, so you're desperate to believe in anything that comes your way in the form of weather scares and such. Geez.

Anyway, the truth will out.

Agreed. It's already coming out quite nicely.

We won't limit production of CO2 et al. because there's no enthusiasm for it. No one really wants to stop it - not the us, not china, not india, not even europe.

I don't dispute that. But evaluating the situation for what it's worth, it hardly looks like there's a tragedy wating in the wings. For what it's worth, I do see efforts being put into reducing pollution, and reuse of materials. I applaud those efforts myself. But I also see that we need crude oil products, and it's not going away anytime soon. Just the facts, like it or not. Driving up the price won't make it less necessary. It will only make it harder for people to live, go places, find jobs, and eat. If only the true believers could see the logic in that. If only.

And so will continue until either the oil becomes too expensive to use or the atmosphere has heated up beyond our willingness to tolerate or some technological solution arrives in time to save the day.

Yeah sure, using their theories and models, maybe in 100 years we would see an average temperature increase of 0.5-1 degree total if there are no natural weather variations or no other natural thermal factors like what the man-made warming theorists espouse. Just model everything in a static system, and model a linear increased CO2 emissions, even the less than 1% of the total leading to out of control thermal runaway. Just ignore all other factors to get your result. And ignore the actual stuff happening outside in actual weather systems.

And if none of these happens, the leftist global conspiracy to eliminate capitilism will just have to find some other project. Maybe voting leads to Alzheimers or something

:rotfl: That's funny joe. The real problem is leading to rising costs of energy, rising costs of food, shortages in both, more unneeded governmental control and regulation over commerce, and useless international agreements that solve nothing than transfer money based on speculative theories.