[Skybird]

Joea,

no I have not read your links, for they appeared in a thread by Subman and I do skip these for the most, so I was not aware of your links and haven't seen them. However, after having flown over them, I wonder what they have to do with fuel-oriented plant farming taking away the expanses that else would be used for farming on food production. This is the spin and gropwing problem in Germany, and in many other countries and areas as well where agricultural expanses are avalable in limited quantities only, as far as I know. wether the processes your links describe change the overall carbon bilance, or not, I cannot judge, nor did I aim this thread at this issue. I was about the rivalry between farming for fuel, and farming for food, since this is not often mentioned.

But regarding the issue you touch - Germany has just abandoned its biofuel goals, after it became clear that multiple times as many cars as was estimated (several millions) cannot process them without taking damage. Originally, Germany's plans in this regard went farther than anyone else's. I a thread on german internal events and issues some days ago I linked to the first news indicating that it would be cancelled. And now, it is indeed.