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Skybird · 03-30-08, 04:21 AM

No. All that was given as justification for the war, were no reasons that held their ground, but changing excuses afterwards.

Also, there have been voiced "reasons" that decribed official war goals, and reasons that lied under the surface and were the real reasons. But none of these given mission objectives were achieved, not the idealistic ones and not the selfish ones. That'S what files as a lost war, no matter how the engagement plays out in the forseeable future: objective achieved or not - this is what defines success or failure. Instead, the strategical situation of the Us has been massively damaged, and beyond recover. It is not feared anymore, the war is not autonomously supported by the american taxpayer, the war has casued follow-up costs to the american society that are calculated in the range between 3 and 5 trillion dollars, which is a very high mortgage for the young generation having to live with it and for foreign creditors, and most important, any historian will agree with me: the nimbus of being undefeatable, by which whole empires lasted for centuries ebentually, is gone.Vietnam was only a loss of face, without further damage to the strategical position. But Iraq is a massive loss of strategic positon and power. Iraq is multiple times worse as Vietnam. One swallow does not make a summer. One battle won does not win you a war.

"You, Hannibal, know how to gain a victory; you do not know how to use it." (Maharbal)

03-30-08, 04:21 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No. All that was given as justification for the war, were no reasons that held their ground, but changing excuses afterwards. Also, there have been voiced "reasons" that decribed official war goals, and reasons that lied under the surface and were the real reasons. But none of these given mission objectives were achieved, not the idealistic ones and not the selfish ones. That'S what files as a lost war, no matter how the engagement plays out in the forseeable future: objective achieved or not - this is what defines success or failure. Instead, the strategical situation of the Us has been massively damaged, and beyond recover. It is not feared anymore, the war is not autonomously supported by the american taxpayer, the war has casued follow-up costs to the american society that are calculated in the range between 3 and 5 trillion dollars, which is a very high mortgage for the young generation having to live with it and for foreign creditors, and most important, any historian will agree with me: the nimbus of being undefeatable, by which whole empires lasted for centuries ebentually, is gone.Vietnam was only a loss of face, without further damage to the strategical position. But Iraq is a massive loss of strategic positon and power. Iraq is multiple times worse as Vietnam. One swallow does not make a summer. One battle won does not win you a war. "You, Hannibal, know how to gain a victory; you do not know how to use it." (Maharbal) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.