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Janus · 03-27-08, 07:20 AM

I started a MTW campaign with the Holy Roman Empire in early period with the XL mod (glorious achievements not conquer the map style).
In the beginning everything went well: I built garrison armies to protect my provinces with the highest income, conquered Flanders and Friesland from the rebels and so on.
After a few years the English got excommunicated and I took Normandy from them to show the Pope on whose side I am (it was more a symbolic act because the english retreated without a fight to the province of Bretagne).
The following year I wanted to destroy the english army in Bretagne but what do the bloody French? They attack my Flandern, Burgundy and Swabia provinces. I had to retreat into my castles without a fight in all of them, except in Burgundy where the battle took place on a river crossing map with 2 bridges. I managed to defend the province successfully but with heavy losses.
So I let my army which was to destroy the English in Bretagne march back to retake the Flandern province. The French gave it back to me by retreating without a fight and I decided to push on to Burgundy (which by then was under siege by a reinforcing French army) via Isle de France. The year after I reached Isle de France and was about to move my army on to Burgundy the pope demands from me to leave alone the French and retreat from their lands withing 2 years and not attack them for the next 10 years (you know the drill...)

Because I did not want to become excommunicated I retreated from Isle de France and had to watch how Burgundy fall to the French. Now my Empire was seperated into two parts, the smaller one being Provence and the province north of it whichs name I can't remember right now.
In the same year the pope demanded my retreat my Emperor "Conrad I" died from an illness and his heir took over. He turned out to be a weak emperor with little influence and 4 years later the civil war broke out. I decided to support my weak king not only because he owned more provinces and had all the heirs - who have good command values - but because I decided to stick to various "house rules" when I started the campaign.
The rules are: don't attack other catholic factions unless they have been excommunicated, only attack rebels, behave defensively when attacked and only reconquer the lost provinces without "Blitzkrieg" the aggressors etc. All in all you could say I try to be a good catholic faction and do nothing what offends the pope.
So I thought I had to support the new but weak Emperor Conrad II because he would be the person to stick to those rules and the rebel forces demand from him to be more aggressive and expand the Holy Roman Empire and give a damn about what the pope is saying.
Now I am in the second year of the civil war and I have regained most of the provinces from the rebels and their castles are under siege. They will all fall within 2 to 4 years and by that time the civil war should be resolved.

Until the 10 year no-attack-period against the French is over I will take back what is mine (Burgundy).

I'm just upset that the pope did not excommunicate the French when they attacked me, but I guess that's some kind of bug in the game. I've read it numerous times in various AARs that the pope tends to not excommunicate the aggressors but excommunicates the player for defending against the AI and taking back what's his.

03-27-08, 07:20 AM	#78
Janus XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 434 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I started a MTW campaign with the Holy Roman Empire in early period with the XL mod (glorious achievements not conquer the map style). In the beginning everything went well: I built garrison armies to protect my provinces with the highest income, conquered Flanders and Friesland from the rebels and so on. After a few years the English got excommunicated and I took Normandy from them to show the Pope on whose side I am (it was more a symbolic act because the english retreated without a fight to the province of Bretagne). The following year I wanted to destroy the english army in Bretagne but what do the bloody French? They attack my Flandern, Burgundy and Swabia provinces. I had to retreat into my castles without a fight in all of them, except in Burgundy where the battle took place on a river crossing map with 2 bridges. I managed to defend the province successfully but with heavy losses. So I let my army which was to destroy the English in Bretagne march back to retake the Flandern province. The French gave it back to me by retreating without a fight and I decided to push on to Burgundy (which by then was under siege by a reinforcing French army) via Isle de France. The year after I reached Isle de France and was about to move my army on to Burgundy the pope demands from me to leave alone the French and retreat from their lands withing 2 years and not attack them for the next 10 years (you know the drill...) Because I did not want to become excommunicated I retreated from Isle de France and had to watch how Burgundy fall to the French. Now my Empire was seperated into two parts, the smaller one being Provence and the province north of it whichs name I can't remember right now. In the same year the pope demanded my retreat my Emperor "Conrad I" died from an illness and his heir took over. He turned out to be a weak emperor with little influence and 4 years later the civil war broke out. I decided to support my weak king not only because he owned more provinces and had all the heirs - who have good command values - but because I decided to stick to various "house rules" when I started the campaign. The rules are: don't attack other catholic factions unless they have been excommunicated, only attack rebels, behave defensively when attacked and only reconquer the lost provinces without "Blitzkrieg" the aggressors etc. All in all you could say I try to be a good catholic faction and do nothing what offends the pope. So I thought I had to support the new but weak Emperor Conrad II because he would be the person to stick to those rules and the rebel forces demand from him to be more aggressive and expand the Holy Roman Empire and give a damn about what the pope is saying. Now I am in the second year of the civil war and I have regained most of the provinces from the rebels and their castles are under siege. They will all fall within 2 to 4 years and by that time the civil war should be resolved. Until the 10 year no-attack-period against the French is over I will take back what is mine (Burgundy). I'm just upset that the pope did not excommunicate the French when they attacked me, but I guess that's some kind of bug in the game. I've read it numerous times in various AARs that the pope tends to not excommunicate the aggressors but excommunicates the player for defending against the AI and taking back what's his.