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Originally Posted by bradclark1
How can someone lead spiritually when they are bigots? OB by virtue of him staying there and being silent agrees with him.
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So we agree that the Pope, Billy Graham, christian fundamentalists both in the US and elsewhere, in fact, any religious leader of whatever persuasion that either through scripture or belief excludes, denounces, shuns, any group of people or ideas contary to their own are bigots. You won't find me arguing with you there.
On whether OB should have got up if he was present during one of these rants and say: "Excuse me Reverand, if you don't stop speaking crap, I will be be forced to leave as some time in over the course of the next 20 years I might want to run for the presidency of the USA and I don't want to run the risk of acquiesing to your statements. But the rest of you good folk in the pews who don't harbour such aspirations feel free to stay - just please don't excomunicate me".
Sorry, I don't buy it. If you are going to hold him to such standards we must ALL be held, and if we all did what you state he should have, I doubt there would be a religious house left anywhere in the world that would still have a congregation to speak of.