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Originally Posted by Platapus
I thought that Senator Obama's speech on Monday (I think) was good. Straight forward and he addressed the concerns.
People who attend church are not mindless zombies. Just because a soon to retire pastor vents does not mean that everyone in the church is going to buy it.
Just because Senator Obama said that this pastor was his spiritual mentor does not mean that he blindly accepts everything he said. I have have had many mentors in both my professional and academic lives. I have not had one that I did not strongly disagree with on some matter. Does that mean they can't be my mentor?
No, it does mean that I learned from them. I always learned from my mentors. Sometimes I learned what to do and other times I learned what not to do.
It is quite probable that Senator Obama listened to this crap and disagreed. If I were to sever contact with everyone I ever disagreed with I would be a lonely man indeed.
To me this is a non-issue being fanned by the Senator Clinton team.
There are other more important things you can either like or dislike Senator Obama about then what some jerk in his church said before retiring.
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Spot on Platapus
How many millions of people attend church every Sunday and hear their minister/preacher/priest etc denounce Darwinism? Does that mean that you "by association" support them in that view? Hardly. And here we are talking about a fundemental difference to the very principal of Christianity. One promoting 'chance', the other 'purpose'.
As Obama has himself said, he sought out some people to help him in his fledging political career - that is the nature of politics, possibly more so in Chicago, and particularly within the black community. It is not allways "what you know" but "who you know" that gets some doors opened. I also believe this view of his is articulated in his belief that if he is elected president of the USA he will open up dialogue with America's enemies as opposed to pointedly ignoring them.
Personally, I think the only question that has to be vigoursly asked of him is whether he agreed with those views of his minister. He has gone on record as saying he does not. Now, unless someone comes forward with reputable evidence to challenge him on this, then it is time to move on.