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Old 03-13-08, 10:31 AM   #118
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a world where one needs to defend their values and life.
Any comment to make on your hope that Letum has his head cut off?

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Is sitting there thinking you are going to die in a jail cell any different than thinking that physical harm is going to come to you via water boarding? Come on! Only the time line is changed! The phych factor the same. Even the hope of survival is the same.
Are you having a laugh?
Fear of death != Fear of immediate death.
I can only refer you to Skybird's post on the matter.

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The only way to get to the world that you utopians dream of is to re-program the human mind physically. So go home and deal with the world you are in already, or start destroying parts of your brain and become a robot. Any other talk of such minor things is pointless and pathetic.
Disliking torture is not a utopian ideal. You know that.
Gotta love the transition, though. You started off with decent arguments (founded on a false notion of torture, mind, but well argued), then after calling for Letum's head to be cut off you went away for a while.
Now you're back, calling everyone stupid cattle/sheep, and now a treatise on how nasty the world is, and any argument against torture is some sort of utopian daydreaming.
Bleh.
Did you say something?

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