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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Anyway - we live in a world that has disease, people die, people get whacked out, people want to kill other people over crazed ideas, and crazed personal profit motivations. We live in a world where guns are neccesary, torture is ill defined, and a world where one needs to defend their values and life.
Is sitting there thinking you are going to die in a jail cell any different than thinking that physical harm is going to come to you via water boarding? Come on! Only the time line is changed!  The phych factor the same. Even the hope of survival is the same.
The only way to get to the world that you utopians dream of is to re-program the human mind physically. So go home and deal with the world you are in already, or start destroying parts of your brain and become a robot. Any other talk of such minor things is pointless and pathetic. 
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Can't argue with that. Torture is torture but i see your point.