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Old 03-06-08, 09:31 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Rhodes
In my opinion, I think it should came back, it's an old german symbol, and it's painted on airplanes, tanks and many ships and vessels as Skybird said.
Any idea as new the medal will be? The article says anything about it? Possibly the german eagle in the center?
No, no new thing - it is discussed to bring back the old iron cross design itself. It was designed by Friedrich Schinkel, and was first installed in 1813 - during the wars against Napoleon.

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Wir brauchen eine Tapferkeitsmedaille. Muss es gerade das Eiserne Kreuz sein? Ja, gerade das Eiserne Kreuz sollte es sein. Gestiftet 1813 in den Befreiungskriegen gegen den Imperialismus Napoleons, entworfen von Preußens größtem Künstler Friedrich Schinkel, hat es eine schlichte Würde und - trotz alledem und alledem - eine beeindruckende Tradition. Man muss nur den Invalidenfriedhof in Berlin-Mitte besuchen, um eine Ahnung davon zu bekommen.

Ja, Preußen hat, wie andere europäische Mächte auch, ungerechte Eroberungskriege geführt.
Ja, dem Meldegänger Adolf Hitler wurden im Ersten Weltkrieg das Eiserne Kreuz I und II auch verliehen. Übrigens auf Vorschlag seines jüdischen Bataillonskommandanten. Was sagt das schon?

Mehr sagt schon folgende Geschichte aus: Als in der „Kristallnacht“ sich der Stuttgarter Mob johlend der Praxis eines jüdischen Arztes näherte, stellte er sich schweigend vor sein Haus mit dem Eisernen Kreuz II an der Brust. Die völkischen Helden verstummten und schlichen davon. Auch an diese Tapferkeit vor dem Feind erinnert das Eiserne Kreuz.

Es gibt keine bequemen Traditionen, in Deutschland schon gar nicht.Gerade deshalb sind Traditionen gut, gerade in Deutschland.
"We need a medal for valour. Must it especially be the Iron Cross? Yes, especially the Iron Cross it should be. Installed in 1813 in the wars for freedom against the imperialism of Napoleon, designed by Prussia'S great artist Friedirch Schinkel, it has a simple dignity and a very impressive tradition. You just have to visit the Invalidenfriedhof (a famous cemetery in Berlin) to get an impression of that.

Yes, like other european n ations, Prussia waged unjust wars of conquest. Yes, Hitler received the Iron Cross himself when having been a dispatch rider in WW1. BTW, by recommendation of his Jewish batallion commander. But what does that mean anymore?

The following story has more to say: when during the Reichskristallnacht in Stuttgart the mob turned against the practice of a Jewish doctor, he just stepped out with his Iron Cross on his chest and stood silent. The arian heroes fell silent, and then sneaked away. Of this kind of valour in the face of the enemy the iron cross also reminds us today.

there are no easy, comfortable traditions, even less so in Germany. And that's why traditions are good. Especially in Germany."
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