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Talk about somebody hitting the same brick wall right in the face over and over again. Go away troll. How long did it take you to think of the spin and drivel here? Some point was being made that military recruiters are setting up shop in less affluent neighborhoods. And the point is being made...why? Not only that there was a point, supported by you even that the military makes a habit out of exploiting kids to get them to join as well. It need not be implicit to see your angle. If you didn't think so, maybe you'd be on the right side of the argument. You're not though. And coming back over and over again won't change that.
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This is what I said. Point being they will go where they can get people. If you want to call that exploited go ahead. I'm not. Where am I wrong in the below fact? No I'm not.
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There have been a few news shows (60 Minutes, Nightline, etc) over the last few years that have shown that the military puts a lot into recruiting in depressed areas which on a recruiting stand point makes a lot of sense. They'll go where they can get the bodies. Not everybody agree's with doing business that way but it works.
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Look at your second posting where you say..."have shown that the military puts a lot into recruiting in depressed areas which on a recruiting stand point makes a lot of sense. They'll go where they can get the bodies. Not everybody agrees with doing business that way but it works."
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You forgot the first part "There have been a few news shows (60 Minutes, Nightline, etc) over the last few years that have shown"
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Look, it's a fact the military puts a lot into recruitment of depressed area's. It's a logical place to go. They give a huge bonus for combat arms. An 11 series mos (infantry) can get anywhere from $4,000 to $16,000 plus education benefits just for enlisting. That's a hell of an incentive if you live in a small dead end town in the middle of Kansas. They aren't going to set up an office in the Hampton's. Recruiting Command will do what it takes and go where it takes to fill the ranks. If people are upset about it "oh well". It makes no sense to gloss over a reality just because you don't like people complaining about it. Reality is Reality.
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Where you get downtrodden I'll never know.
Lets look at your next slice of selective editing.
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Then you say a few posts down "I'm sure there are people from an affluent background serving." Well no kidding, and it's good you point that out.
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You don't think there is anybody serving from an affluent background? To you, everybody in the military is there out of economic desperation?
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Duh
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What I said was you won't see a recruiter in the Hamptons. I'm sure there are people from an affluent background serving. No, what I said was "That's a hell of an incentive if you live in a small dead end town in the middle of Kansas." Where am I wrong in that? You don't think Recruiting Command doesn't go where they think they can get the people? I'm trying to understand where you see personal desperation in that. In fact I'm trying to understand why you seem incensed over it. You don't think they target rural America?
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You guys always backpeddle once you get caught in BS rhetoric. And it's funny as hell to watch. You make it seems like the military is guilty of something up there, then say when push comes to shove that there are more than just the poor there. You may get mad at me for not allowing this BS, but it will be pointed out. Anyway, this is a very minor point.
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Backpeddle on what? The military isn't guilty of anything. I think I made it pretty clear that Recruiting Command will go where the bodies are? Where the hell you get desperation and downtrodden and only taking poor people is in your own mind.
Now it's a minor point? You have a screw loose genius.
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The main issue is why you choose to support and defend someone who chooses to denigrate our military recruiter with foul names. Someone who trys to make recruiters look as though they are wrong for finding recruits. It's not my problem if you look like the horse's A** because of it.
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One of your favorite tactic is selective memory. He explained those feeling pretty good. I also expanded on it a little.
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The military is over a million strong and there are a million reasons for joining. If people disagree with the war they are going to view recruiting as bad and that kids are being taken advantage of. One equals the other. Unless the average person has lived around the military they have no concept of what it's like besides what they see in the news or movies. The people with attitudes are few and if you can educate them.... but it's not worth getting in a pissing contest over.
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My daughter started receiving phone calls from recruiters at 16. I don't see anything wrong with that but he does. I don't agree with him but he has that right.
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There still is nowhere you can point that I called himanything.
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Heres you:
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Come on SH. Don't be so ignorant.
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The problem is SH, you came into my country, and you began listening to left-wing Democrats about the nature of this country. Along the way, you have been made to believe the stupidity of Democrat activists. I find it sad that there are foreign people who come into the USA for whatever reason, and waste their time believing the false ideas and spin driven by America hating leftists. It's a shame really. The above youtube clip is from a parody item that relates to military recruiters changing requirements to meet current goals. It's brought to you by a spinning lefty who has an agenda against fox news. Nothing more than that really.
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And that kind of goes against your first direction there. You guys always backpeddle once you get caught in BS rhetoric. And it's funny as hell to watch. You make it seems like the military is guilty of something up there, then say when push comes to shove that there are more than just the poor there. You may get mad at me for not allowing this BS, but it will be pointed out. Anyway, this is a very minor point. The main issue is why you choose to support and defend someone who chooses to denigrate our military recruiter with foul names. Someone who trys to make recruiters look as though they are wrong for finding recruits. It's not my problem if you look like the horse's A** because of it.
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The only one talking about guilt is you. How the military recruits is no big secret. Again, they go where the bodies are. You don't think they offer big bonuses to be good'ol boys do you. I'm still not finding where anybody has said downtrodden and poor. SH said he doesn't approve of recruiters targeting students. He can disapprove if he wants to without getting a ration of s#!t from the likes of you.
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You joined the topic in attack mode, and are devastated because you now look more foolish than you ever did.
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I think it will take something more than you for anyone to feel devastated.
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And are doing nothing but digging a bigger hole for yourself with every post.
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I haven't seen a hole yet.
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it's with me and others who point out who the vile military haters are.
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Where do you get military haters from? In fact who are these others. They wouldn't happen to be fluffy pink elephants would they? You need to take another of your pills. Come down to reality.
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Nope. I base my arguments on the fact that I was attacked wholesale and our recruiters were attacked and called "bastards". And their mission was also trivialized by this person. You not only defend this guy, but you join the topic making personal attacks of your own. Very impotent ones at that.
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You are fascinated with that word aren't you. Read his thread and not the one word. Nearly as bad as your downtrodden and poor.
You don't think this is attacking him with your Demophobia? Poor little foreigner allowing himself to be made a fool of by evil Democrats.
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The sponsorship is through my work. You don't understand anything.
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Oh I think I understand perfectly. You and I both understand.
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And you can't disprove any of it.
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Where does politics come into this. You can't go one day without an attack of Demophobia. Save it for the political threads.
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I think I do alot more than you if I actually donate money. Have you ever heard of disabled veterans charities? I also have given to my local VFW.
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You showed yourself for what you are perfectly the first time.
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And the visible aspects demonstrated here by you that we can all see, you don't seem to be on their side at all.
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In the America I live in a person can have a difference of opinion. He doesn't like recruiters in school. I don't agree but I'll step on you if I think you are being your usual self to someone because they won't agree with you.
Now go take your pill and go to bed like a good boy.