[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Nobody but you says they target only poor people in less affluent areas. He said they are targeted. No only to it. You seem to agree. Why the flip flop Can't make up your mind? My daughter started receiving phone calls from recruiters at 16. I don't see anything wrong with that but he does. I don't agree with him but he has that right. Those graphs show where a majority of our men and women come from. What groups are larger? It shouldn't be any surprise and it's probably the same in most countries that rely on a volunteer voice.

Is there anything wrong with providing these kids with career choices? If not what's your problem? The military is a volunteer force. Nobody is forced to join. And these recruiters have a job to do. SH has a right to speak ill of them, and you have a right to protect those who seek to damage the honor of our military people. But I have a right to fire back. And I will. Get over yourself.

What a fraud you are brad. So SH can say what he wants and gets a free pass at the end of it all. Like I said, he probably said things that got you moist. And you cannot now come back and pretend you're this big advocate of military personnel including those that recruit. You have been shown to be inconsistent, a backpeddler, a supporter of those who denigrate our military people, and now intellectually dishonest. And there's nothing you can do to clean that up other than to admit your errors. But of course you could never do that...could you?!?

SH said some remarkably bad things about US military recruiters. He only decided to backpeddle himself once he saw that he wasn't going to get away with it wholesale. Learn a lesson from that. Because you will get no free ride yourself. If you lump yourself in with that group, and attack those who seek to fight for the honor of our recruiters, you have only yourself to blame when it doesn't go right for you and not everyone is throwing roses at your feet.

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Instead you attack the guy defending the honor of military recruiters. Don't look for adoration when doing that. Oh, and when did I call him an ignorant foreigner? I just can't seem to find the quote.

Here it is.

The problem is SH, you came into my country, and you began listening to left-wing Democrats about the nature of this country. Along the way, you have been made to believe the stupidity of Democrat activists. I find it sad that there are foreign people who come into the USA for whatever reason, and waste their time believing the false ideas and spin driven by America hating leftists. It's a shame really. The above youtube clip is from a parody item that relates to military recruiters changing requirements to meet current goals. It's brought to you by a spinning lefty who has an agenda against fox news. Nothing more than that really.

And here is my reaction to it.

You are one sick puppy Sea Demon. blah...blah...blah...spin...spin...spin

I still don't see "ignorant foreigner" anywhere in there. Perhaps in your looney mind, it's there. But the paragraph just doesn't show it to those of us in the real world. And my reaction was to him calling our recruiters "Bastards". I guess you didn't want somebody to challenge that assertion. That's what I see. Otherwise you wouldn't have got your little knickers in a bunch and decided to attack someone who seeks to defend the honor of the recruiter. And I know exactly where this type of dialogue usually comes from. You hate it pointed out, but it's the truth. And it will always be pointed out. Democrat activists use this language, and most people know it. You simply cannot blur that or pretend the opposite is true. I'm sure your next diatribe will attempt it. But you look dumber trying to clean up that fact. It just doesn't mesh in the real world. You see, we've seen even members of the failed Democrat Congress say very demeaning things about the military. John Murtha saying our soldiers were killing civilians in cold blood. I'm sure SH saw that and said "yeah, they are murderers!" Maybe you did as well. What about Dick Durbin comparing them to Nazi's? Maybe you and SH had a jolly good time with that one, didn't you? It's not hard to see where some of these emotionally based false assertions against military recruiters come from. Too bad you can't handle it. It's not just my opinion, but many people see the same thing. It's in the words. But of course you have no trouble with an ad hominem attack from that direction, do you?!? That's where your little argument about "it's not what you say, it's how you say it" falls on it's face.

No I'm not but if I see you being insulting or belittling to someone I'll step in every time.

Please do. You look the fool for it, considering I was defending military recruiters who were attacked ad hominem by someone who doesn't even understand them. You apparently don't care about military recruiters or their mission. You care that somebody's talking mean. What immature hogwash. But that's your right. I would at least recommend you look at what these recruiters really do, how they do it, and the challenges they face in doing it. You and SH are cruel, and are the type that destroy what these recruiters try to do. BTW, where were you when SH was insulting or belittling to not only myself, but to military recruiters? He started it, not me. And how about your own insulting behavior? I did not respond or say anything to you. You as usual trolled the forum for a fight. And you got one. And now, you can't just wiggle out of it and save face. As usual, you look like an immature brat that can't influence people to think like you. And now you put yourself into a position of helping to marginalize US military recruiters. You as usual started insults my way, but complain that I was defending recruiters in a mean way, against someone who called them "bastards" and said he was sickened by them. This is too funny dude. You're even stunned that someone would make rebuttals to your own insults.

Funny, I don't remember me diminishing the rolls of recruiters. I remember saying a few times I don't see anything wrong in recruiters tactics. I have though said the SH is entitled to his opinion. Perhaps you can show me. You can't though can you?

No, you simply coddle and protect those that diminish the roles of recruiters. And attack those that are in the process of defending their role and mission. That's the same thing. Like I said, your bigotry against our military is not in the form of words, it's in deeds.

Show me where I backpedal on anything. You are letting your imagination run rampant again.

By insisting that now, you're this great advocate of military people, while you're doing everything in your power to help those that diminish or marginalize their mission. Not only do you backpedal. You now amazingly insist, that you're just doing it because you're against mean people who use insulting language. But you look like a complete moron, because you do not address the origins of this whole thing. And that's SH attacking me wholesale, and then attacking military recruiters and calling them "Bastards". You look the fool because not only did SH attack me first, but so did you, and you complain because I make a comeback. That's priceless comedy. I guess in your eyes, military recruiters deserve to be lied about, and their mission completely crapped on. And nobody is supposed to prove that erroneous. You can't twist it your way, although you can continue to try. It really is amusing.

I listen to the vets at the hospital and give them a nonjudgmental ear. I'll shake their and and give them my thanks. I'll buy them a burger. Give them smokes if they are out and I drop soda off at the psych ward. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Yeah, every one of you that denigrates our military is a medal of honor winner, who personally carries the weight of all servicemen. You listen to vets, buy them burgers, and behind their backs defend people who marginalize their recruiters. You defend those that make our recruits look like stupid, little desperate hacks. And you attack those who vigorously defend the military...with the weak excuse of "you use insulting language". But ignore the insulting language of the attacker of recruiters, and yourself. I myself don't believe you do anything but run your mouth.