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Old 02-05-08, 02:54 PM   #22
sonar732
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
While true that he only freed slaves in states in rebellion, he did sign the order freeing them.
Even though Lincoln was a very vocal anti-slave man in private, he was vocal about preserving the union in public. His policies reflected the war, both before and after. Before the war, he favored policies that would lead to the eventual extinction of slavery as those policies would've prohibited admission of any more slave states in new territories. Early in the war, he replaced generals in border states who claimed the slaves in their region were free to make sure those states would side with the union cause. Late in the war, he gave a speech on 'limited' sufferage.

For all of those who complain about Bush sidestepping the Congress on numberous issues...Lincoln did the same here.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael
Did Congress lie to itself to justify the invasion and occupation of Iraq or did the Bush White House? I will admit they may have lied to themselves that Bush was an honest man.
Congress looked at the same intelligence...hence partly shown in their approval ratings and why the Democrats are playing possum like Kerry did in the last election on whether or not they should've voted for or supported the war from the start. Not because they "didn't know", but because they did know and are looking at their political future to back track on their stances...hence why McCain is the only one who's been upfront about his stance on the war from the start.

Now...as I've said multiple times in other discussions...this will be my last post regarding as I'm sure there will be 5 rebutals soon to be in this topic.

EDIT: ...Last time I checked...there was no reason for the Bush administration to be pardoned. Bad policies, according to some, isn't grounds for impeachment.
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