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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Didn't you live through the punk scene in the 1980's?
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Yes, and in Berlin. And guess what - I am not too tolerant to that, too. If they nevertheless behave, okay, let's see how it works. But leading people around like dogs - well, next is some rubber fetishists in half-naked outfit parading on the street. - Gee, I forgot, we already have that: Christopher Street Day.
And you know what? I am intolerant on that one, too.
One cannot criticise the fall of values and social behavior - and tolerate practicing of it nevertheless.
and most decisive for me personally is this, what I already said at the beginning: I would feel irritated, a bit helpless maybe, offended, and even attacked in my sense of shame, when needing to see such people like in that article and sit beside them in a bus. And that is what social standards, amongst others, are there for: to protect against the direct, confronting violation of taboos and sense of shame in public. at home, they even can eat dogfood if they want, i do not care. but if I am forced to witness them doing that, the fun comes to an end.
Boy oh boy, what is wriong these days, that every BS and every freak and every misbehavior must be tolerated and dealt with as if nothing is wrong, and all is okay, and if you are not willing to do that, you are accused to be an intolerant, reactionary burgeois.
In germany, three or four weeks ago an old man was almost killed by a Greek and a Turkish juvenile while teling them not to smoke in the subway. after he left the train, they jumped onto him, kicked woith full power in his neck and face, and he suffered multiple skull fractions and got almost killed. Nevertheless, an editor of a major newspaper here "Die Zeit", wrote an essay that such violance gets provoked by german "Spießbürgerlichkeit", and that a buregois like that that old man would maybe get away healthy if they would not be so tunnel-minded and accept that rules and laws get violated (smoking in trains is forbidden here). the editor caused an avaöanche of aggressive angry responses to his follies, even hateful post, but he even kicked a second time, saying that it is a sign of intolerance in Germany if the criminal statistic (saying that around one half of the crimes of juveniles are committed by juveniles from foreigner's families, and the other half by german offsprings) is being discussed as interpreted as that foreign juveniles commit significantly more crimes than German juveniles. That is Pc in action - if foreigners really would not commit more crimes than Germans, in crime statistiscs they should have a drastcially lower score. but if their score is as high as that of German, although there are mutliple times as many Germans living here than foreiogners, than this means that the crime rate is multiple times as high amongst foreigners, than it is amongst Germans. solution in order not to be burgois: ignore it, and remain silent about it as if nothing is happening.
Sorry guys, not with me. I am totally pissed with this kind of unreasonably tolerance, becasue I see how it is raping the culture I live in, and makes mockery of everything that our cultural developement over past centuries has brought to shine. That is true with regard to those wannabe-killers in the subway. That is true for almost naked men bragging with their sexual orientation on public parade, and that is true for a couple walking around and provoking their social environment without any consideration like the two in this article.