[AVGWarhawk]

KP, smoking and pubs have long been associated as far back as smoking and pubs have been around. It was the place to do it. That tradition or type of socializing has held it's ground to this day, although it is losing ground!

Sorry to say that these two who got the boot interviewed in the office and if all who were presently employed at the time smoke in this enclosed room the place smells like an ashtray. I'm sure they smelled it. It has a unmistakable odor. It clings to the smokers clothing and hair. It gets into the walls and carpet. It leaves a dark film on all surfaces where the tobacco is burned. Did they really think it would all go away if they took the job?

As far as drinking, I suspect (no statistics as yet) that alcohol related deaths by vehicle probably outnumber any second hand smoke deaths. No offense to you drunking idiots behind the wheel but what right do you have to endanger others on the road either driving or just attempting to cross the street? It goes both ways KP.

Drinking is not tightly controlled. Never has been. Anyone can go get blotto all day every day if they want. Good Lord man, they have drive through liquor stores. It is like McDonalds. Give me a #1 with cheese and six pack. Now, that does not promote drinking and driving does it?


I find it amazing when non-smokers pick up the flag and run with it concerning pubs and smoking. If it offensive, find a pub that does not allow smoking or just do not attend. Everyone should suspect smoking will occur in the pubs. When I find any place offensive, I do not go there.