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Skybird · 12-29-07, 08:42 PM

Letum, all that is academical finger exercise that maybe is intersting in a philospher's course, but you reached a degree of abstractness with your original question and later scenario that you leave any sense for reality behind, and then you wonder that you do not get any better answer than I already gave. We know both very well what you want: to construct an artificial thought experiment by which you hope to make me admit that I am wrong and that there is morality in warand yoiuz do not care at all how abstract and surreal it is. but the example you set up is so absurd, so artificial, so off-reality, so unrealistic, that it simply is not of this world at all. such academic exercise maybe is intersting for you, but it does not tell you anything about realistic scenarios - no matter what answers you get.

So my answer is most precisely: no, it will not go accoridng to the plan by Mr. Vogel, because in 2039, Angela Merkel would be of age 84, and almost surely would not be in office anymore from the very beginning of your story.

Whats wrong with you guy that so often you need to reach to such absurd levels of abstractness in order to construct examples that support your views? Where there is a rule, you insist on going for the exception from it. Were there is immediate reality on debate, you transform it into a debate of some surreal abstractness. Its a habit that I noticed repeatedly. But the world is no abstract laboratory, and reality bites much more painful - and for real! - than abstract fantasy: I think this is what you often are missing.

Changing one million dead for saving one hour until cease-fire." - if that is all you are concerned with, then have fun with your hypothetical scenarios. Militarily, your construction does not make any sense.

Feel free to disagree with me, but still your abstractness gives me no convincing reason to think different from like I already do, and thus I will live and think on unaltered by your brain experiment. Because I live in this world for sure - not in your strange fantasy.

To bed now, good night.

12-29-07, 08:42 PM	#178
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,818 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Letum, all that is academical finger exercise that maybe is intersting in a philospher's course, but you reached a degree of abstractness with your original question and later scenario that you leave any sense for reality behind, and then you wonder that you do not get any better answer than I already gave. We know both very well what you want: to construct an artificial thought experiment by which you hope to make me admit that I am wrong and that there is morality in warand yoiuz do not care at all how abstract and surreal it is. but the example you set up is so absurd, so artificial, so off-reality, so unrealistic, that it simply is not of this world at all. such academic exercise maybe is intersting for you, but it does not tell you anything about realistic scenarios - no matter what answers you get. So my answer is most precisely: no, it will not go accoridng to the plan by Mr. Vogel, because in 2039, Angela Merkel would be of age 84, and almost surely would not be in office anymore from the very beginning of your story. Whats wrong with you guy that so often you need to reach to such absurd levels of abstractness in order to construct examples that support your views? Where there is a rule, you insist on going for the exception from it. Were there is immediate reality on debate, you transform it into a debate of some surreal abstractness. Its a habit that I noticed repeatedly. But the world is no abstract laboratory, and reality bites much more painful - and for real! - than abstract fantasy: I think this is what you often are missing. Changing one million dead for saving one hour until cease-fire." - if that is all you are concerned with, then have fun with your hypothetical scenarios. Militarily, your construction does not make any sense. Feel free to disagree with me, but still your abstractness gives me no convincing reason to think different from like I already do, and thus I will live and think on unaltered by your brain experiment. Because I live in this world for sure - not in your strange fantasy. To bed now, good night. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.