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CCIP · 12-27-07, 10:23 PM

Also "credible threat" doesn't neccesarily translate into "operating AIPs". All they have to do is counter them.

I certainly don't think anyone, including Swedish AIP crews, are under the illusion AIP subs are a panache to everything. Nor is there really an impetus to switch to them for now, especially with what can rightly be considered a very fine nuclear fleet that is working well. However I think it's undeniable that they are a credible threat and possibly a very good future-proof alternative to nuclear subs.

As fatty VERY rightly pointed out, we're talking 20 years into the future here, and we're talking about Australia's fleet whose main potential opponent certainly won't be the US. How about instead of arguing over whether Swedish or Australian subs beat the US subs, we think about what they could bring to the table against actual likely opponents? :hmm:

I would thing the very first thing in mind for this design would be how good it would be against China's arsenal, for one.

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Also "credible threat" doesn't neccesarily translate into "operating AIPs". All they have to do is counter them. I certainly don't think anyone, including Swedish AIP crews, are under the illusion AIP subs are a panache to everything. Nor is there really an impetus to switch to them for now, especially with what can rightly be considered a very fine nuclear fleet that is working well. However I think it's undeniable that they are a credible threat and possibly a very good future-proof alternative to nuclear subs. As fatty VERY rightly pointed out, we're talking 20 years into the future here, and we're talking about Australia's fleet whose main potential opponent certainly won't be the US. How about instead of arguing over whether Swedish or Australian subs beat the US subs, we think about what they could bring to the table against actual likely opponents? :hmm: I would thing the very first thing in mind for this design would be how good it would be against China's arsenal, for one. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)