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The object was an unconditional surrender of Japan, not a ceasefire and not negotiations.
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Bingo! That's what makes it immoral.
Hiroshima was not an act of defence.
Hiroshima was not in the interest of American soldiers as they could have been saved by the cease fire. It was not in the interest of humanity as a whole because...err...well it destroyed a whole city of humanity!
In fact, I can't think of a single person it did benefit* who would not have benefited more from a ceasefire. I can however think of many, many people who suffered and continue to suffer as a result of Hiroshima.
*politician's carers excluded
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a common mistake here is to forget the warrior code of the japs in this case they would never ever surrender or entertain a ceasefire that in itsself would facilitate an invasion which would have cost more lives than the two bombings and let us not forget here which nation was the aggressor in this instance!
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Maybe we should have bombed and shelled Leningrad, conquer it and burn it to the ground.
By this logic Finns could have killed, raped and burned everything they wanted in
Russia and it would have been ok.
But i wouldnt be very proud of it.
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I quoted all as to not take out of context but your last line stands out, 'But I would'nt be proud of it'. Dropping the bomb is not part of national pride. It was a means to an end. May not have been the best answer but it was one possible answer. We can only talk in generalities concerning mainland Japan invasion and the casualties that could have occurred. Again , based on soldiers lost retaking island after island was examined through and through. These figures were applied to taking the island of Japan by land forces. The numbers looked staggering to Truman. His decision to use the weapon was based on these figures. It was Trumans best answer for the figures presented to him at the time. Let's be in Trumans shoes for a minute....do we send 350,000 American's to their possible death in a land invasion? So many have given up their lives thus far. Or do we implement this weapon, end the war and send these 350,000 boys home? I suspect I would take the second option myself. No offense but Japan attacked first. The US answered.