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Originally Posted by Chock
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the meditation groups I ran for several years, all in all around 300 people, plus/minus 50, I assume. The one thing I really demanded was a certain kind of dicispline
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I can just see that: 'On the command three, you WILL relax! One, two... wait for it... wait for it! I DEMAND DISCIPLINE! THREEEEEEE!':rotfl:
Sorry Skybird, I'm only joking, it just put that picture in my head the way you phrased it.
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sure, I already figured that out. Maybe "dedicated attitude" to do the things with regularity would be a better description. but you probably got the idea anyway. Nothing is to be gained, but all is to be found. that cannot be actively acchieved, but only passively received. It's not so much about doing the right things, but giving up doing the wrong things. So, pressure and "disciplined working" is very much useless from the very beginning. You only can help to improve the circumstances, that way making it more likely, maybe, to let go your conditioned habits, and by that giving room to let "enlightenment" happen all by itself, which again is not acchieving something new and different, but only realising what always has been there already, never being different. But that already is a misleading, dualistic conception again, so you better do not wish for "enlightenment" at all.
Language, thinking - always a trap. I should bite a piece of soap, probably.