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Maybe he isn't sick? Maybe the killing hadn't started when he was a gaurd? I'd hear him out before casting judgement. Maybe he firmly believes that the killing was all a lie? You never know.
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I don't think there's anything to hear. Sure, he can talk all he likes, but "firmly believing", unlike what some people assume, doesn't make things go away. He's been a criminal ever since he joined a Nazi party organization, let alone a camp-guard branch of it, and on the topic of the crime he has no say after he's been proven guilty. Zero.
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Originally Posted by bookworm_020
...Some tried to justified it by saying they were following orders, or that's how it was back then. Some didn't really care about what they had done or how they had profitied from the misery inflicted on others.
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I'd say being shot for failing to follow orders may have been a strong motivator!  They probably were just following orders.
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Joining the SS was a conscious choice on his part. It wasn't by any stretch a conscript organization. Were he in any other German branch of service, that'd possibly work. With the SS, that's no excuse. He knew exactly what their job was and he didn't get it by being a passive collaborator with the Nazi cause. |
My wiews.
SS camp guards cant deny they didnt know about what was going on.
But Waffen SS on the otherhand doesnt make you automatically a war crimiminal.
And Waffen SS had concription also, this was acknowledged in the Nurnberg trial.
The NKVD btw did more crimes than Waffen SS. If we agree in that NSDAP was a criminal party i just think that everyone joining the Communist party during Lenin and Stalin is by logic also criminal.
Interesting history on Gestapo(part of SS) and NKVD co-operation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo-NKVD_Conferences