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Originally Posted by Kapitan
yes 550 was taken in the 1960's however the one area that became renown for its strategic importance was on the doorstep of the USSR the arctic, yes you may have wide open ports on both oceans but the USSR had shields so while we could fire missiles plainly into your harbours you couldnt really do the same because you would have to come around an island or past a radar station at some time making your ships seen....
In all the soivets could afford to loose a few, and in the 1980's typhoon stepped up the soviets game, here was a submarine capible of launching its payload without leaving dock, murmansk in summer is a hard port to get into, but in winter its even harder.
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I think you can't differentiate between "global nuclear conflict" and "conventional open ocean battles". I write here about the letter all the time. In such battles submarines are not normally involved as a first line combatants.
Of course, nuclear boomers are the best deterrence platforms but note that US Navy also had similar capabilities. Simply Soviet SSBN's free access to quite safe arctic waters was compensated by US boomers very secure station areas on the open oceans.
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Originally Posted by Kapitan
the pacific area has a fair amount of naval bases while yes there are more littoral ships you got to take into consideration that even a burke class aegis system can be over whelmed, your 1 DDG in the sea of okhotsk with a dozen soviet patrol craft carrying missiles your ship will swat down 2/3 of the incoming missiles but you couldnt take them all and you have no where to hide simply because your now trapped in the soviets ring.
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Only if Burke's AEW helo can't spot your littoral corvettes earlier and enable DDG to sink them with TLAMs or Harpoons first!
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Originally Posted by Kapitan
Take the oscar class they were designed to go out in packs and sink enamy carriers one is capible of killing a carrier the reason 3 or 4 go out at a time simple over whelm enemy systems even with 0 (?) or more missiles flying about you aint gunna get all of them.
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Yes, Oscars posed sole real threat to American CBGs screened by AEGIS ships. Unfortunately there were only several Oscars available in 1980s. Remaining Soviet SSGNs were already outdated at that time. You know: surface missile launch (Julliet and Echo, maybe except those fitted with relatively modern SS-N-12) and very short range SLCMs (Charlie, Papa) were good for sinking Chinese Navy galleons but not US Navy ships! :rotfl:
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Originally Posted by Kapitan
a ship is only as good as the captain and crew, could you fit a DDG up the neva river after a fast patrol craft probably not, just because the nanchuka and trantu craft dont look big doesnt mean to say they are not in anyway un capible of sinking a ship the size of a DDG.l
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Theoretically they can but practically it is very hard or even impossible. Look at First Gulf War: US Navy and Royal Navy hadn't any troubles with sinking all Iraqi small coastal warships using heloes armed with anti-ship missiles.
Besides we talk here about blue water engagements. There is no place for missile corvettes in such battles...