I agree with everything below but want to add some more.
Some were laughing at the Iranians for claiming that their sub could avoid Radar not sonar. But those who laugh need to remember the history of WWII submarine combat. It was not until the allies started using radar and catching German U Boats on the surface recharging their batteries at night that we started to turn the tide in the battle for the Atlantic. If not for radar we would have all been talking and singing in German or Japanese.
These new fuel cell powered submarines are a huge threat to the USA and our allies. And these type of submarine are going to help shut down the oil that's flowing out of the Persian Gulf if we are not careful.
Like Skybird said below: We can't find the Swedish sub in our war games. That scares the holly crap out of me.
Sometimes were are so full of ourselves and overconfident that it scares me. We need to stay vigilant and prepare for the worse case scenarios not cake walks.
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Originally Posted by Marcantilan
Donīt underestimate the capacity of a SSK operating in shallow waters, specially in the tricky (hot & cold currents) Persian Gulf waters.
The new Iranian boats are no joke for the US Navy.
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Even more so since they will not try to chase a surface group, but in the narrow waters of the gulf or the straits can afford to wait in silence and let them come to them - No matter if surface group, tankers, or escorts.
An outdated type 209 has sunk 15 NATO vessels in southafrican exercises just weeks ago - already forgotten? And that was in the open ocean. It was reported that at no time it ever was detected while "killing" the complete NATO armada down to the last ship.
So one must not even refer to the Swedish sub being leased by the Navy to learn how kill it. that is in it's second year now, and they still don't have a clue, it seems. The Swedes say they Americans are desperate, and in over a year haven't found them one single time. they also said they could drive circles around the navy, and up and down the Mississippi without the navy being able to do anything about it.  That sub may be an even more modern design, OK, but nevertheless - you get the message. It reads: competently handed diesel subs are an extremely dangerous opponent.
Don't talk your enemy strong. But also do not underestimate him. Especially when it comes to subs. |