quote skybird (An outdated type 209 has sunk 15 NATO vessels in southafrican exercises just weeks ago - already forgotten? And that was in the open ocean. It was reported that at no time it ever was detected while "killing" the complete NATO armada down to the last ship.)
Sometimes with that said it is good for buisness if the outdated tech sold to 3rd world contries acctually makes kills if it does that in an exercise then they may want more which means more cash for you even though you know you can find it some exercises are rigged.
There were reports german type 212's had to have noise makers fitted to thier sterns so other nato countries could atleast have half a chance.
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