[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

The only thing I can tell you is reread the article and at least try to comprehend what it says. You have a bad habit of just seeing what you want to see and ignore everything else. If it's too hard for you I'll try and make it simple enough for even you to hopefully understand.

Don't need to. You obviously misunderstand why I posted the article. And what the significance is. The man-made warming cult is shown to be completely wrong in it when they have been saying for years now that warming is directly increasing with the magnitude of C02 emissions and the cumulative aspects of it. And 2007 proved that wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if 2008 has another surprise for them. This is a cooler year and it wasn't supposed to be. Kind of like the "hurricanes increase with global warming" nonsense that was proven erroneous for the past two years. The funny thing is you only like the parsed parts that say what you like, but those ignore the main point. These other parts of the article of course try to explain it away without trying to lose credibility. And it doesn't work. Unless you're gullible that is. At some point even you have to open your eyes and put everything in focus.

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Oh thats a real adult way of dealing with it.

No. That's the realistic way of dealing with it. We should not allow an unelected body design an agreement which punishes us, while at the same time allowing a free for all for those who are major polluters on the other end of the spectrum. That's just common sense and looking out for one's own interests. It's not my fault if you have no love, patriotism, common sense, or feeling of national survival in your heart.

We don't have to go by that agreement. Their is absoulutely nothing that stops us from using a formula that suits the U.S.. We have done zip, nothing, nada to control our own emissions in the last seven years. The worlds third highest pollutant just ignores the problem because China isn't playing until 2012. Why do I feel we are acting like seven year olds?

I got news for you brad. China isn't going to play even after 2012. Nor is India or Russia for that matter. You are foolish if you think they will. And we are already going by our own agreement. And have blown Kyoto out of the water. And that's the good news. But, we have done much as August pointed out. You refuse to see any of it. You completely cover your eyes to it like a small child throwing a temper tantrum because nobody listens to you. The only juvenile here is you.

Let me say this for what the fourth time? Nothing stops the U.S. from designing its own program and implementing it. Stupidly putting our head in the sand doesn't make the problem go away. Get over your Johnny won't play mentality and at least attempt to think like an adult. Because I'm not as ignorant as you I don't care for the U.S.? I don't think so. I believe in doing our bit.

We are doing as much as we can. But we are not going to destroy ourselves implementing a rash series of things that if poorly planned or implemented too quickly could have adverse consequences. This is why I'm glad you have zero power here. And nobody is really listening to you. As we go into the future, there will be more hybrid automobiles on the road, there will be cleaner ways to produce energy in our homes, and we will find better ways to renew our raw materials. Those things are happening now. But we are doing it at a pace that will not be harmful. We need to test these methods. What are they're drawbacks? Over time, do we see breakdowns? How are we going to fund it? Are there other adverse aspects that may come about by using these methods? etc. etc. etc. Anybody with any credentialing of any kind should know better. That's why I question the motives of many in the warming movement that claim to be experts.

When at a loss revert to stupid comments huh.

Uh. No. Those are questions. And you are afraid of questions, obviously. And you always run away from such questions. And it's no surprise. Like when I asked about you directly in the other thread. And what you do other than sit around here and complain all day. What do you do for the movement? Directly? Do you drive less? Have you abandoned unecessary driving altogether? Have you bought a hybrid? Do you try to grow some of your own food? Do you take the bus? Have you abandoned air travel unless absolutely necessary? Do you avoid completely Target and Walmart? Do you limit your computer usage? Really easy stuff here. If you believe so much in this stuff, these actions would seem quite necessary. Are you nothing but "doom and gloom" around your kids/grandkids? Or do you provide them any hope? Do you even let them know there is a future? Or do you just push doomsday on them? How miserable for them if you do. You defaulted on many other questions I had in the other thread that shows your total inconsistencies. Like I said before, questions are not stupid. Of course you say they are, because you don't want to answer them. Yet, they are very relevant in scope here. And the fact that you seem to have such an irrational fear of them says alot.