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Originally Posted by Chock
That's all very nice in theory, but unfortunately what it boils down to, is the Dalai Lama buggering off to save his own skin and urging everyone else to sit there and take it while he lives in comfort. And it's apparent from the death toll what that has achieved, i.e. absolutely bugger all, apart from suffering for the people who stayed.
Don't often say this, but I completely agree with Waste Gate. The Dalai Lama is like someone on the edge of a brawl, urging others on while they stand there out of the danger themselves. If he was prepared to get his hands dirty along with all the others, I'd have a bit more respect for him, but as it is, he is just like virtually all religious leaders and figureheads, happy to let all the others do the dirty work. In that respect, he's no better than the ayatollahs who urge suicide bombers to their deeds but are not prepared to take that kind of action personally. What kind of 'good karma' does he think letting others carry the load will imbue him with?
And even if we take the view that he has chosen exile in order to help get the cause recognised by world leaders in other countries, we can see what a piss-poor job he has done of that too, as the actions of other countries to prevent attrocities to his people amount to zero.
Another reason why following any religion but one of your own making, is stupid. He will probably re-incarnate as a chocolate teapot, because he is about as much use as one.
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You see it and judge it by the values of the Church, and Islam, and their dualistic views of the world. But Buddhism is no Asian pendant to these. As a young boy, btw, the Dalai Lama HAS confronted Chinese delegations, risking to get raided and kidnapped as a consequence for not obeying their demands.
Not for everybody fighting and military violance is acceptable, even when being attacked. For buddha, it was not. for Jesus, btw, it also was not. Why don't you complain that in thr story of the gosples Jesus did not ty tom escape from Getsemane, or did not told his students to resist injustice and opression with violence? to expect Tibetans that they should fight the chinese is a bit like demanding the Amish to serve in the military, or accuse ghandi to not have waged war against the British. You cannot have peace of mind and heart, and violant acting at the same time. Violance and peace are exclusive to each other.
Where I in the past years talked of war and reasons for it, I never said anything like "war in Buddha's or Jesus name", that simply is not possible. waging war is ALWAYS in violation of both men's teaching. Both men gave not a single excuse for fighting, violance, and war. When I accept to violate their teaching, it may be because I do not consider myself to be in the defense of either Buddhism or Christianity and their ethics. I'm neither the one, nor the other. I just consider both men, Jesus and Buddha, to have been reasonably wise, and to have talked about the same things.
"The spear in the others heart is the spear in your own - you are he." A dualistic thinking mind cannot understand what is meant by that - Diane Duane wrote this quote. And no, that is no Buddhist writer. It has nothing to do with religion or philosophy. Anyone knowing what it is?
You'll have a laugh on this.