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Skybird · 11-25-07, 04:32 PM

I did not jump down your throat, as you put it ( but I eventually could, to make you feel the difference

), but I jumped onto a half-baked statement saying the first amandement only means the state is not to hinder religion (hiding that the first amandement also implies the state has no right to help religion, by that raising the wrong impression - and saying - that the state is not being separated from the church).

And since the original thread was about the influence of fundamentalists in the military, and the filtering of reality perception that these religious dogmas may cause in military (and political) leadership, I (Germany, europe, the world) has a very legitimate interest in what is going on in your "internal" affairs. In those areas where you influence and interfere with other nations and people in not so exclusively an internal way only, you can hardlky do so and then say the effects for others should be ignored. Because the American modern culture, no matter if you like it or not, spans the globe since 40., 50 years, and the American foreign policies are affecting the world community as well as American economical decisions do. The dollar weakness is no internal American affair, for it has reached a level where it now does threatening ammounts of damage to european key indiustries like Airbus, and it starts to costs jobs - our jobs. The financial mess of the US budget is no internal american affair. The wars America fight and may launch in the future, are not an internal American affair. Where you touch other people and nations, their political, economical, security conditions and interests, it is no internal American affair. - I for example do not care for the Voodoo religion in Haiti, for Haiti's influence on ther world is limited if not non-existend, and if occasionally in some moon-lightend night a rooster get sacrificed over a camp-fire, i must not stick my nose into toher people's business, and it does not interest me at all. But the Us is not just a small banana republic, but a major player, and what it does, becomes, changes, decides - affects several times as many people worldwide than just those 310 million american citizens living on the northamerican continent.

So the mental attitude and code of values in your political and military caste, and wether or not your military and political leadership falls under the spell of some suspicious religious dogma or not - is very well of vital concern for us in europe, and elsehwere. In Iraq, for example. Or is that also just an internal american affair that Iraqis must not care for?

11-25-07, 04:32 PM	#47
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I did not jump down your throat, as you put it ( but I eventually could, to make you feel the difference ), but I jumped onto a half-baked statement saying the first amandement only means the state is not to hinder religion (hiding that the first amandement also implies the state has no right to help religion, by that raising the wrong impression - and saying - that the state is not being separated from the church). And since the original thread was about the influence of fundamentalists in the military, and the filtering of reality perception that these religious dogmas may cause in military (and political) leadership, I (Germany, europe, the world) has a very legitimate interest in what is going on in your "internal" affairs. In those areas where you influence and interfere with other nations and people in not so exclusively an internal way only, you can hardlky do so and then say the effects for others should be ignored. Because the American modern culture, no matter if you like it or not, spans the globe since 40., 50 years, and the American foreign policies are affecting the world community as well as American economical decisions do. The dollar weakness is no internal American affair, for it has reached a level where it now does threatening ammounts of damage to european key indiustries like Airbus, and it starts to costs jobs - our jobs. The financial mess of the US budget is no internal american affair. The wars America fight and may launch in the future, are not an internal American affair. Where you touch other people and nations, their political, economical, security conditions and interests, it is no internal American affair. - I for example do not care for the Voodoo religion in Haiti, for Haiti's influence on ther world is limited if not non-existend, and if occasionally in some moon-lightend night a rooster get sacrificed over a camp-fire, i must not stick my nose into toher people's business, and it does not interest me at all. But the Us is not just a small banana republic, but a major player, and what it does, becomes, changes, decides - affects several times as many people worldwide than just those 310 million american citizens living on the northamerican continent. So the mental attitude and code of values in your political and military caste, and wether or not your military and political leadership falls under the spell of some suspicious religious dogma or not - is very well of vital concern for us in europe, and elsehwere. In Iraq, for example. Or is that also just an internal american affair that Iraqis must not care for? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.