Well after all that you were right, the game to me is lame as a two legged donkey, it looks un-finished, I do like the look though it reminds me of an old comic book, almost a Jules Verne atmosphere, I await the patches and mods, thank goodness for the modders of this world, SH3 and 4 are great programs and the work done by the modders is so awsome and professionaly done, I am constantly blown away. If there are any of you out there then THANK YOU.