[turnerg]

Well, a little more on topic so to speak, vet, and ESPECIALLY wounded vet benefits needs a serious overhaul. The system was broke before Bush came into office, but it really needs work. Geez, the Romans gave you a plot of land, and you could end up being in upper society... Vets are the ones that pay for everyone's freedoms, that certainly is something i'll watch for this round of elections.

And btw skybird, you might be surprised that I agree that war should never have to be an option. We SHOULD be able to ask guys like Saddam to not gas their own people, torture athletes, etc. What would you find worse: reading that a helpless person was beat to death, or that there were people all around, fully capable of stopping it, yet they let it happen claiming it was not their bussiness, despite whether they thought it was wrong or not? You are right though, hasty action does bring serious concequences, but on the Marine side of the war, there was no lack of motivation, even when we had old gear. Since Vietnam we usually had army hand-me-downs, all the way up until the current administration. Sometimes it takes that "cold bucket of water in the face" like the issues we had with armor, weapons, etc. to get the ball rolling in the right direction. Now, we get brand new stuff, new rifles, new armor, helmets, cammies, stuff that surely never happened when the clintons were in