[Kpt. Lehmann]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

So this is back to etiquette is it?

Modder ediqutte is a vehicle on how GWX maintains control over their mod, and ultimatly SH3 in general. GWX team does not share crap in terms of tools, or knowledge with the community. You will never see the GWX team releasing tweak files for any files in their mod, nor even tools. You will never see them talking in detail about their AI visual settings, nor their choice in sub mechanics. Its all a big secret.

Along the lines of secrecy, GWX has created inhouse tools that they choose not to share with the community at all. They keep this to themselves, so nobody else can use them. They made this one a few years ago, http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/jammu.jpg

I imagine that they've had something like this
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119571
For quite some time now.


If GWX was so benevolant and misunderstood, why all the secrecy? NYGM is essentually dead, there is nobody to compete with, DTB is gone, and for that matter, why compete at all? Have to be the big kid on the block? You'd think that after all this time, they'd take their victory loral, retire, and enjoy the game they made for themselves, but they don't. Ultimatly, GWX doesn't share, they just take. They are sort of like the borg. They assimiliate.

My biggest issue is, I know they'll work their way to SH4, and apply their brand of eithics to what is otherwise a wonderful mod community. Open source is a wonderful modding enviorment, but it is one that is not supported by GWX. They'll assimilate the community here, and ultimatly control this community as well as the SH3 community. I make no mistake here, KL is very good at playing his poltical cards on subsim. He has alot of clout and influence, and is very good at manipulating people to get what he wants. I know this response of mine will probably bring a heated reply, and im going to do my best to ignore that reply. But I beleive i know what i speak of. I've been in the deepest bowls of the stink that is GWX and got quite a bit of it on myself, and im none too proud of that. Infact, im ashamed of myself for having ever been involved with that mod project or the project manager behind it. Its a shame i can't revoke my "permission" on some of my contributions there. Of course by GWX standards, maybe i can, but would they adhere to that? No, of course not, its not in their best interest. The only ethics that interests KL, iare ones that are to his bennfit, not the communities.

Sour grapes from Ducimas. His bitterness is nothing new. He caused nothing but trouble for us internally and nature took its course.

Yes we have cool tools... and a "high speed - low drag" methodology. Besides, those tools evolve quickly... and IF they were released... our mod developmental work would come to a stand-still while user support efforts run the shop.

Not only that... but potentially doing so would contribute to a proliferation of MOD SOUP... that nothing solid could ever form from the resulting mess.

We can either be effective at building... or explaining... but there is only enough manpower for one of the two. (This is a real catch-22.)

As much as a handful of disgruntled and bitter people here would have you believe, it is not any sort of 'chokehold' that we seek and has nothing to do with NYGM... or "kicking" other modders.

Our IRE is directed at those who try to harm our overall effort to produce competent and reliable material... and those guys tentacles try EVERYTHING to do exactly that.

Let them come.