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Prientje · 11-01-07, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by leovampire

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Originally Posted by swdw

Leo,

Since you need to mod the sub's .sim files to get some of your effects, and after the PM's on CoG, I was wondering . . .

It looks like ROW will be the controlling mod for other mods to a certain extent. So I'm thinking it would be better to follow Ducimus' idea and have RFB install over the top of ROW. So any files overwritten by RFB will need to have your changes in them included with the RFB changes.

Are the mods you're doing to the subs basically the same straight across the board? Will looking at one .sim file show what values the parameters need to be changed to in the others? Or, have you had to customize them for each sub.

Because of the changes in the zones files, I was wondering if there may need to be 2 RFB releases- a stock version (Basic RFB) and a ROW compatible version. What is your opinion on that?

Also, are you doing anything to the operational values in the various sub files?

Thanks for the work- looking forward to getting my replacement MB back so I can actually see what you've posted lately in operation. (Turns out US ABit is moving their entire facility right now, so this is delaying everything . . . Old desktop has a 1.3GHz proc and an ATI 8500- can't run SH4)

I PM'ed Ducimus to find out what he did to the sim file's for the sub's first then added my small change to them after applying his changes. To try and make them compatable.

As to the DAT file's for the sub's for the reflection's and caustics I first started with the DAT file's from Kapitan_zur_see's work because I do not know how to do what he did it is 100 time's more complicated and time consumming. When he produces more finished sub's for the bubble's I will update the reflection work from them. He used a program to get the corordinate's for each limber hole on the sub to add the bubble point's from there.

There is no way to adap every single mod out there into these file's you just do the best you can and try not to piss people off by making them lose the effect's they wanted and chose for their own game.

I am trying to make as many choices as possable in the work to accomidate other mod's out there hence the work I have to finish for the zone's file. One for the stock game one for T.M. and maybe one for RFB if I can get to it.

You are at a total disadvatage here because you can not test a single thing you do to make sure it work's okay in game and will have to rely on others to tell you what is wrong. And that isn't going to go over very good unless you have testers that don't care about playing the game.

I try to be as accomidating as possable to the comunity but I can not please everyone nor will I go out of my way to try because 16 hours a day work is enough for me and it still take's time to do it all.

Example open up any ship dat file in the game and find every node that handles the reflections there are a lot of them then there is testing to make sure it looks act's and work's good.

I just care about the graffic's end of this mod if people like it and it work's well in game. I gave up on the actual game play stuff because too many people are making change's for me to keep up.

Ducimus and Berry make the changes they want and like for their mod's and use what they want at least the way Lurker_hlb3 does his work it dosn't interfear with mine he isn't interested in getting into this part of the game work so his stuff work's 100% with our's. So only Lurker allows people to make their own choices for other mod's with out problem's and conflict's. If I had a choice about it I would just take the stock stuff and make my changes but it isn't always possable to do.

As to the sub reflections yes they are the same accross the board and so are the caustic's and Center Gravity effect change.

This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can.

My God, I am speechless and shocked what you wrote about you ...

God bless you !