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Old 09-30-07, 11:12 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Quagmire
The whole thing is obscure. How can I have a cronic leak in the conning tower WHEN I AM SURFACED????

The whole compartment is above the waterline when surfaced.

The sub damage model just aint right. Anyone know a good modder??? :hmm:
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OK, first of all you are NOT IN THE CONNING TOWER unless you're on the bridge. You are in the control room, a portion of which is ALWAYS under the waterline. So if the hull breach is in the right place you can have water coming in on the surface.

The conning tower was added to subs as a way to give lookouts more distance from the water surface, to keep water in rough seas from pouring into what would otherwise be a open deck hatch, and as a support for periscopes and such so the main hull doesn't have to get so close to the surface when making a submerged approach. As such, there are no critical controls in the tower, they are in the control room below the tower and inside the pressure hull. So take this into account before yelling something is wrong with the damage model.

Next, looking at the previous description- You can settle lightly but still stress the hull, causing a weak point that will eventually fail from the constant pressure. If this game follows this idea, your problem makes sense. Plus, in real life, you can stress the hull even more breaking the suction from the bottom when you start moving again. Did you lift from the bottom at all stop? If you read "Blind Man's Bluff" you'll read about an interesting experience the Seawolf had in a Russian harbor after she'd settled on the bottom. Also, had you undergone any depth charge attacks before reaching the harbor? That's adding stress on stress.

In addition, if you are in shallower water in real life, swells will cause the boat to rock on the bottom. Maybe the game takes this into account. If you are sitting on a rocky seabed, lots of things can happen with sea pressure, swells, underwater currents, and bottom suction. The idea of going to the bottom at the drop of a hat is a hollywood approach. It was a dangerous idea then, still is, and was done with a lot of reluctance by even the most experienced skipper. Worst case - bottom suction could trap you on the seabed. Next worse- you damage your screws, rudder, and hull and can't make it home. Or you damage the screws and hull and become a giant noisemaker. None of these are good

So there's the real life take on this tactic. Oh, and BTW, the photos are uselss unless you get them to the people who need them. See if the mission gives you asuccessful completion when you make it back to base. Since that seems dicey with your current damage, maybe the game won't give you a successful completion until you have the photos on the pier?
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