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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
i think the US shud change their foreign policy.. from "lets fight all of israel's wars!!" to " let them see if they can walk the walk... they talk the talk.. so lets see what REALLY happens.."
then there would be no threat from al qaeda etc... why do you think 9/11 happened!! 
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Without the US there is no bloody Israel. Isreal is an artificial state. Its placed in the middle of un-arable land. The US had to pour mountains of money into an irrigation program to make it so that people could actually live off that land. Their weapons are either directly from the US or are bought with over 2 billion dollars of American taxpayer money every year. And without the US's support at the UN all of Israel's regional nemesies would be able to actually assert an independant foreign policy and possibly develop an economy.
9/11 has nothing to do with it.
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Sorry but I didn't want to be a total prat and triple post.
@Skybird. First I have to thank you for your intellect. Yours is the first reply that while I was reading it it didn't feel as if you were yelling at me. Others it seems as if whenever I disagree with them I'm personally in this moment helping Iran win.
I agree with your conclusions as to the likely fallout of events following an attack on Iran, including a nuclear attack. However I don't believe that it is worth it in the end. How can it possibly stand that a nuclear attack on a muslim nation is the only way to prevent nuclear proliferation? It is the height of irrationality. Indeed it would cripple the threat of Iran developing a nuke and distributing it to terrorist groups. However it would I believe set into motion a kind of Muslim rage that would create a world in which terrorism would grow exponentially and in which all muslims would unite against the West.
A nuclear attack on a muslim state would unite the muslim world and end peaceful political dominion of the US and its allies. Such actions would also legitimize for the first time since WW2 the tactical use of nuclear weapons. It would if anything make proliferation more likely in that nations would see that the threat of use is no longer sufficient when the most powerful nation in the world used them. I completely disagree on this Skybird, and I think that it would be a far better thing to see a small nuke explode in a western city than to see Iran levelled by American stealth bombers. In the end both are terrible but the deliberate and
legitimized use of nukes on a muslim nation would... I can't even imagine how to say it. There would be no peace for as long as we lived thats for sure.