[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I did - and you are wrong. Your person and your possesions in this day and age are still your personal private property. It doesn't matter if you carry your house on your back, in your bag, or at a place of residence. You are reading it with too narrow a mindset when you interpret this to be your home only.

No. I'm reading it to be within your private realm, versus someone else's, when the other realm's owner at least forewarns of his reasonable rights to assure prevention of theft, as is "reasonable" in stores, especially in this day and age.

I thought you were up and up more than this on American law?

I've never studied law per se.

You know you don't have to submit to anything without just cause

There is a just cause over here.

not even open the trunk of your car to the cops over here.

Again, this is an invasion of your private realm - your car. And even this is required in cases of just or reasonable cause, no? Or is a warrant always required?

Ever heard of that?

Obviously so.

The 4th amendment does not simply state your place of residence.

But in this case we're talking about someone else's private residence or realm and they should be entitled to dictate such terms of agreement in advance.

Giving loss prevention this kind of power - that is a scary thought.

Nonsense. Receipt checking has been occurring for donkey's years and with exception of cases of outright discrimination, it has been a mostly quiet operation.

It is also morally unacceptable.

Quite the opposite. My property. My terms of sale. Don't like them? Don't buy from me.

Forcing me to risk financial losses when I operate from within my own private property and wishing to dictate reasonable terms of sale, applied without discrimination. I would find denial of such elementary rights to a propietor morally apprehensible!