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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Too harsh, too authoritarian, to less liberal a reality for you again? As a psychologist I must tell you that you are wrong, and that we know from arranged experimnetal situations as well as from reality. Shock tactics, if only going deep enough, can replace a thousand words.
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As a user I must tell you you're being an ass.
My objection is that I don't see these adverts as being very successful. To the standard person, who does not drive while drunk, they give every appearance of a hard-hitting campaign. Mostly, because they reinforce our ideas about drunk drivers (there's a post up therre about shooting them). In the mental rush to differentiate ourselves from those who drive when incapable, I think we overestimate the effectiveness of gory shock adverts. We (I'm assuming most people here don't drive drunk) are not the intended audience here.
I didn't make the nature of my objection very clear in my original post, true. But neither did I go off on what you might call a stereotypically liberal, anto-authoritarian rant. But you seem to think I did. Or you were looking to get an insult in, whatever. |
I just react to a pattern I perceive in your reactions and comments. You seem to be always "anti" and "against", whenever a not fully voluntary, obligatory, mandatory, ordered, hierarchic, effect-oriented, not unlimited tolerant action or decision is suggested. I have seen this being camouflaged as "humanism" or "free choice" or "freedom" too often, where in reality it was just meant to endlessly evade taking responsibility, accepting to make decisions and accept the consequence of this, and not to act in any way substantially, but do nothing and just hope for the best outcome from this comfortable phlegmatism - but this with surprising agility. I don't know how old you are, but I see you like a juvenile, if not by body so then by mind, who is "anti" authority and "anti" hierarchy for ideological and/or protesting reasons, like children are "anti" to the rules of their parents. It reminds me of the "68er" generation, or the schoolgeneration I experienced myself in the 80s, what was called in Germany the "Null-Bock-Generation". This impression I have formed not over days or weeks, but months, if not years, and due to many opportunities when you commented on one or several of my posts, or that of others.
So I see you quite a bit more differentiated than just calling you a lefty or liberal.
I do not call you like that, but describe you as someone having a principle problem with any kind of authority and hierarchy and obligation. Sorry if that hurts or angers you, but that's how I see you -on the basis of discussions here on this board.