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Originally Posted by Wave Skipper
I have looked over all your pictures and the FIRST thing I note is that you have a pile of higher waves in a circle around your boats and ships - where ever your camera is centered. In SH3 this same thing took place but the circle was much wider and less visible until you climbed to 200 meters. You guys are getting off on how great the waves look 150 meters around your boats and are ignoring how utterly FLAT the sea appears just an arrow's shot from your boats. Is this the result of your tinkering or did the game come with this flaw?
I see how you guys are flipping out for the better water effects, but I still note that much of the renderings of the sky and lighting look cartoony. One problem with this engine - it attempted to render too much - beyond its true capability. Sh3 stayed better with in the boundaries of its capability. SH4 attempted to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and this only highlights its unreality. It reminds me of the early attempts in Hollywood to create computer generated animals for its movies - such as the half baked desert Leopard(?) in the movie Hilalgo. By going to the very limits of what their graphics abilities were capable of they ended up rendering a crapy cat and showing the ragged edge of their deficiencies.
In like manner SH4 went too far for what Ubi was capable of and you guys are pushing it even further. Now you have a nice PILE of higher waves and this just accentuates the sad fact that you have pushed your little engine to an RPM far above what it can handle. ARE YOU GUYS NEAR SIGHTED OR SOMETHING? Put on your glasses so you can see further away! There was a reason Ubi kept the waves down. To add more realism to their water they sacrificed the width of the wave circle that surrounds the center of every camera shot. But in doing this they brought the range at which the distant sea appear flat and waveless. Got it? Thus they had to keep the waves way down to prevent this sad fact form showing too much. Now you have strethched the envelope and ripped it open for all to see - THOSE WHO LOOK.
All of this is about art. If you focus on some character in a cheap novel too much - ask too many questions about him - shine the light deep upon him - a story will begin to fall apart!
Aside from all this, you guys still have not noted the cartoon effects in SH4 art. Colors are not quite right - skies often look strange - especially when you guys mess with them, and the crew look comic book flat in the control room. Bad coloring.
I have searched the web for one picture of a US sub in moderate seas with a multitude of little waterspouts shooting out of its hull, and while I have found some with one or two, I have yet to see one that looks anything like the silly little spouts in SH4.
In computer art it is ALWAYS best to stay within the limits of your medium UNLESS you are aiming at strange or modern art.
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Ummm, okay... someone take your favorite toy away from you?
