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Skybird · 08-28-07, 03:53 PM

Wading through this thread I must conclude that GobalExplorer is wrong when he said that the good news is that MS won't succeed. Because the real good news for me is that I am not caring too much anymore for new games and games in general. Not needing to be affected by all this business pervertions is the best thing that can happen to you!

I've seen the emerging of computer games from the very first beginnings on, when there was Pong and Nightracer and Galaxians, and from there i went to the present. Truth is - it starts to bore me. Innovations have become very rare, it always seems to be the same old stuff in just new and slightly better clothing - and these differences become more narrow with each develoepment cycle. 15 years ago, you eventually could see very big differences in visual presentation of games separated by let's say two years in design. Today, these differences are such that games three years of age evtnually still could look extremely well. Beyond a certain treshhold level, improvements in graphics become less and lesser important (and cannot compensate for lacking innovation anyway). Like you can take a square for a circle, but 8 corners look seriously more like a circle than a square with 4 cornbers only. However, if you compare 16 corners to 32 corners, the visual differences is no more that obvious than it was when jumping from 4 to 8 corners. It seems that today we have reached a level where we think about jumping from let's say 64 to 128 corners to built a circle. Like when you read a book, and your imagination and fantasy brings the evnts in the book to life, visual apperance also is only one ingredient in a game that makes it worthwhile for you. the real great games and sims I use(d) I kepot alive by imagination and immersion only, and often despite the fact that graphically they were/are outdated. It does not make them less enjoyable, and immersive. I have seen the video of Crysis, and compared it with Far Cry. Yes, it looks better. And no, the difference i do not see to be as important. some slighty adjusted game elemnts, maybe, even more violence in fact - to me it is not much more than just Far Cry.

No question that at release they nevertheless will try to make a revolution and a hype out of it.

08-28-07, 03:53 PM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,792 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Wading through this thread I must conclude that GobalExplorer is wrong when he said that the good news is that MS won't succeed. Because the real good news for me is that I am not caring too much anymore for new games and games in general. Not needing to be affected by all this business pervertions is the best thing that can happen to you! I've seen the emerging of computer games from the very first beginnings on, when there was Pong and Nightracer and Galaxians, and from there i went to the present. Truth is - it starts to bore me. Innovations have become very rare, it always seems to be the same old stuff in just new and slightly better clothing - and these differences become more narrow with each develoepment cycle. 15 years ago, you eventually could see very big differences in visual presentation of games separated by let's say two years in design. Today, these differences are such that games three years of age evtnually still could look extremely well. Beyond a certain treshhold level, improvements in graphics become less and lesser important (and cannot compensate for lacking innovation anyway). Like you can take a square for a circle, but 8 corners look seriously more like a circle than a square with 4 cornbers only. However, if you compare 16 corners to 32 corners, the visual differences is no more that obvious than it was when jumping from 4 to 8 corners. It seems that today we have reached a level where we think about jumping from let's say 64 to 128 corners to built a circle. Like when you read a book, and your imagination and fantasy brings the evnts in the book to life, visual apperance also is only one ingredient in a game that makes it worthwhile for you. the real great games and sims I use(d) I kepot alive by imagination and immersion only, and often despite the fact that graphically they were/are outdated. It does not make them less enjoyable, and immersive. I have seen the video of Crysis, and compared it with Far Cry. Yes, it looks better. And no, the difference i do not see to be as important. some slighty adjusted game elemnts, maybe, even more violence in fact - to me it is not much more than just Far Cry. No question that at release they nevertheless will try to make a revolution and a hype out of it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.