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Old 08-24-07, 07:48 PM   #37
Happy Times
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If they don't need Russia why don't they just go and try to make business in Finlandia or Estonia for example. I wonder what Estonian or Finnish farmers would say when Georgians would aquire 90% of their market places and shops and would collect huge fee for the right to trade there They cry we discriminating their business here in Russia but didn't they allow any Russian business on their territory? Abhazes did but Georgians not.
I would like to hear more about this, just sounds impossible.

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As for Chechens, I hope someday our government would let them go their way just to stop spending our budjet money on them. In my humble opinion profit we gain from Chechnya being Russian territory is much less than expences we wear. But Chernomyrdin and Lebed' have once gaven them freedom de-facto. And what did
we achieve - terroristic bandit hole on our border. Now they say they have dealed with terrorists and rebuilding republic. Amazing but there is one detail - according to Chechen habbit the only heir is the oldest son - others receive nothing at all. Taking into account they have four or five children in families it helps to regulate heirloom conflicts inside the family but leaves a lot of young MEN who cannot find place in their region. So they come to Stavropol, they come to Moscow, they come to Kondopoga and so on... Tajiks come to this places too, and Armenians do and many others, but they live with respect to local habbits and traditions and young Chechens not. They treat us as enemies in their region - I can understand that - it has deep roots, but they think they have right to come to our cities and do whatever they want, they place tribal rules of their diasporas higher than our country laws in summary with our inept and corrupted regional police this leads to complete lawless mess in some cases. Another thing about them - is that they never had any kind of normal traditional business. You won't find any restaurant of Chechenian cuisine or you won't find Chechenian craftsman or Chechenian builder or Chechenian gastarbaiter at last. They think they are higher than this "dirty" professions. Their usual occupations are extortions, kidnapping, car-stealing and so on.
Guys who wear weapons with them any time of day despite our common country laws, who allow themselves to beat unmercifully teenagers with Russian Flag near Red Square in Moscow crying "Allah Acbar" "Russian pigs" and so on being 50 hands to 10 aren't neighbours you've always wanted to live with.
For most of us it would be safier to let them mess with themselves. It would be of mutual benefit I suppose. But then we would need to recreate Cossak militia to defend our South border regions - Stavropol'e and and allow Cossaks to wear weapons to defend their homes from inevitable bandit raids.
Of course there are a lot of normal Chechens like those who are really trying to rebuild their towns. All the things I've said higher concerns only those passionaries who are doing all this mess here in Russia. I believe, in France they have same feelings about arabs, Algerians and other people from former colonies who live there.
But really I don't know what should our government do to manage all this stuff right way. If I knew - I 'd worked in government
I only used Chechens just as an exsample when you said the Ossetians and Abkhaz should be allowed to decide what to do. The Finno-Ugrians in their republics arent immigrants, they have lived there thousands of years. It seems your goverment has chosen a very hard line of russification. Its a shame because a lot of Russian culture comes from these people, and most Russians are related to them. If you don believe me, contact these people and ask, but you do it with the risk of getting FSB interested on you.
You sound like a very decent person btw. Поехали!
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