[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by SSBN629ERS

I'm not sure what qualifies you to speak for Cold War submariners, but I as a Cold War submariner myself, I can say I was not insulted at all. The Scorpion accident happened well before I served, but scuttlebutt in the silent service about its demise continued for many years. I assure you that Mr. Offley did not start the "soviet attack" theory. Maybe it came about from our arrogance that only an act of treason or something sinister could possibly overwhelm the most elite, best trained submariners in the world. As for me, I don't know what to believe. This book has got me asking more questions than I had before I read it. I know that Silent Steel by Stephen Johnson is next on my reading list.

I don't know, but wouldn't the concept of being successfully trailed and attacked by an inferior Soviet Echo, which is not only inferior technologically but also in training compared to the "most elite, best trained submariners" be more insulting than dying in an accident?

On a related note, I must say I never understood why the Russians always keep saying their subs died in collisions with American subs. Never mind whether that was the case. How is it good for morale to keep blasting out that their enemy's subs can get close enough to their own, without being counterdetected and thus evaded to cause a collision? If I'm a Soviet submariner, I'd be quite depressed about what this implies for my odds at war indeed...