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Skybird · 08-18-07, 05:44 AM

I hope I'd be courageous enough that I'd stay aboard as long as I can do at least something to save passenger's lives, for they put their lives in my hand when boarding, and thus I have the obilgation to help them as best as I can.

But I see no obligation in this tradition of captains going down with their ships. I would leave when I am totally 100% sure that there is nothing I can do anymore, and cannot help to save even a single passenger anymore, and my crew. I hope I would not leave earlier.

Are cardrivers that survive an accident in which people got killed obligated to kill themselves?

However, there is the issue of the burden of guilt. I do not know, but there were incidents in the past wehre I, as a reader or viewer, thought: that poor dog survives the mess he created, now he will need to live with it - wondering if he would prefer to have been killed, too?

Also, some old guy who knows nothing but his ship in his life may feel his dreams going into shatters, and life's meaning fading. I will not talk bad about a captain choosing to end his life along with the life of his ship . But it would not be my choice, if there is no purpose beyond these sentiments.

I can imagine situations where a purpose being achieved is a necessity - and my individual survival not necessarily is a precondtion for that, to put it this way. I of course hope I avoid such situations in my life, at least until I became a little bit older.

Such extreme situations do make little sense to try to answer them in advance, Kapitain. Men who boast with self-confidence and appear to be courageous and noble - could eventually turn into wimps and brutal egoists once they are in such a situation, while wimps and grey mice nobody took ever note of suddenly could grow beyond their limitations. You'll see what kind of guy you are dealing with once you and him are in that kind of situation. Words are cheap. It's the extremes in life that separates the phoneys from the heroes. and most heroism is being shown in eveyday life anyway, and is not noticed by anyone.

Are you willing to accept death in an unsensational way, without audience that applaudes your heroism, and history even not taking care, not to m,ention: note of it? Fulfillment of duty that will never being realised by anyone, and not expecting any kind of reward or payback from fate for your decisions, and acting? That is heroism, too: to fulfill your duty while accepting to be a nobody. Call it stoicism, if you want.

No vote from me. I'm not made to understand the reasons you give for each of the options you set up.

08-18-07, 05:44 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I hope I'd be courageous enough that I'd stay aboard as long as I can do at least something to save passenger's lives, for they put their lives in my hand when boarding, and thus I have the obilgation to help them as best as I can. But I see no obligation in this tradition of captains going down with their ships. I would leave when I am totally 100% sure that there is nothing I can do anymore, and cannot help to save even a single passenger anymore, and my crew. I hope I would not leave earlier. Are cardrivers that survive an accident in which people got killed obligated to kill themselves? However, there is the issue of the burden of guilt. I do not know, but there were incidents in the past wehre I, as a reader or viewer, thought: that poor dog survives the mess he created, now he will need to live with it - wondering if he would prefer to have been killed, too? Also, some old guy who knows nothing but his ship in his life may feel his dreams going into shatters, and life's meaning fading. I will not talk bad about a captain choosing to end his life along with the life of his ship . But it would not be my choice, if there is no purpose beyond these sentiments. I can imagine situations where a purpose being achieved is a necessity - and my individual survival not necessarily is a precondtion for that, to put it this way. I of course hope I avoid such situations in my life, at least until I became a little bit older. Such extreme situations do make little sense to try to answer them in advance, Kapitain. Men who boast with self-confidence and appear to be courageous and noble - could eventually turn into wimps and brutal egoists once they are in such a situation, while wimps and grey mice nobody took ever note of suddenly could grow beyond their limitations. You'll see what kind of guy you are dealing with once you and him are in that kind of situation. Words are cheap. It's the extremes in life that separates the phoneys from the heroes. and most heroism is being shown in eveyday life anyway, and is not noticed by anyone. Are you willing to accept death in an unsensational way, without audience that applaudes your heroism, and history even not taking care, not to m,ention: note of it? Fulfillment of duty that will never being realised by anyone, and not expecting any kind of reward or payback from fate for your decisions, and acting? That is heroism, too: to fulfill your duty while accepting to be a nobody. Call it stoicism, if you want. No vote from me. I'm not made to understand the reasons you give for each of the options you set up. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-18-07 at 05:56 AM.