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Skyhawk · 08-08-07, 09:52 PM

First, I need someone to show me in which aircraft, and in which default version of MSFS where there is an interactive flight crew that adds to the immersion of said flight-sim. It doesn't exist. The analogy is not a good one IMHO because I'm here to tell you that no matter if you can reroute fuel from your aux tanks or not, it would be the flight engineer who would do that sort of thing in a multi-crew aircraft, not the PIC (pilot-in-command). Being able to click on the switches and do that yourself adds nothing to the immersion factor of the sterile cockpits of large ATP aircraft in MSFS. A flight engineer that you can see who states, "Roger, fuel selector switch to left auxillary tank." as you watch him reach up and flip a switch, that I can buy. But this simply doesn't happen in MSFS multi-crew aircraft.

I absolutely believe that the absence of the crew ("eye-candy") for more detailed "clickable" sub controls would not add to the immersion at all. MSFS is an excellent example of precisely that.

IMHO, the interface is merely a substitute for verbal communication with my crew when playing SH4. To have SH4 operate the same as a clickable virtual cockpit in MSFS would suspend all illusion of a virtual sub-crew, same as it does in any default version, of any multi-person flight crew aircraft in MSFS.

How many Boeing or Airbus airline transport aircraft have a flight crew of one? How many WWII submarines have a crew of one?

A sterile cockpit and cabin is just that. Same goes for submarines without any stretch of logic.

I agree completely that the "clickable" virtual cockpits in the default C-172SP Skyhawk of MSFS add to the immersion factor. However, in any aircraft that has more than a single PIC for a flight crew these "clickable" virtual cockpits work against the immersion factor, and destroy it altogether (username=Skyhawk, got my PPL in '98).

Do I want the same for SH4. Nope. No way, no how.

Good analogy? I beg to amicably disagree with that. To each their own, this is merely my opinion, costs the same .02 as anyone else's, no disrespect intended.

I will however bet you dollars to pennies that if you get rid of the crew "eye-candy" for more "clickable" sub controls, there would be a HUGE outcry that goes something like. . .

"Where is my crew!!!!". :hmm:

Regards

p.s. For the record, I chose the middle ground in the poll.

08-08-07, 09:52 PM	#22
Skyhawk A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 79 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	First, I need someone to show me in which aircraft, and in which default version of MSFS where there is an interactive flight crew that adds to the immersion of said flight-sim. It doesn't exist. The analogy is not a good one IMHO because I'm here to tell you that no matter if you can reroute fuel from your aux tanks or not, it would be the flight engineer who would do that sort of thing in a multi-crew aircraft, not the PIC (pilot-in-command). Being able to click on the switches and do that yourself adds nothing to the immersion factor of the sterile cockpits of large ATP aircraft in MSFS. A flight engineer that you can see who states, "Roger, fuel selector switch to left auxillary tank." as you watch him reach up and flip a switch, that I can buy. But this simply doesn't happen in MSFS multi-crew aircraft. I absolutely believe that the absence of the crew ("eye-candy") for more detailed "clickable" sub controls would not add to the immersion at all. MSFS is an excellent example of precisely that. IMHO, the interface is merely a substitute for verbal communication with my crew when playing SH4. To have SH4 operate the same as a clickable virtual cockpit in MSFS would suspend all illusion of a virtual sub-crew, same as it does in any default version, of any multi-person flight crew aircraft in MSFS. How many Boeing or Airbus airline transport aircraft have a flight crew of one? How many WWII submarines have a crew of one? A sterile cockpit and cabin is just that. Same goes for submarines without any stretch of logic. I agree completely that the "clickable" virtual cockpits in the default C-172SP Skyhawk of MSFS add to the immersion factor. However, in any aircraft that has more than a single PIC for a flight crew these "clickable" virtual cockpits work against the immersion factor, and destroy it altogether (username=Skyhawk, got my PPL in '98). Do I want the same for SH4. Nope. No way, no how. Good analogy? I beg to amicably disagree with that. To each their own, this is merely my opinion, costs the same .02 as anyone else's, no disrespect intended. I will however bet you dollars to pennies that if you get rid of the crew "eye-candy" for more "clickable" sub controls, there would be a HUGE outcry that goes something like. . . "Where is my crew!!!!". :hmm: Regards p.s. For the record, I chose the middle ground in the poll.